The "Messi: the best player in the world. Is it even up for discussion?" thread

Discussion in 'Barcelona' started by jfcule, Mar 22, 2012.

  1. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    #8026 Bada Bing, Mar 29, 2023
    Last edited: Mar 29, 2023
    Why would Messi retire when he's still comfortably the best player in the world?

    Career 58th hat-trick.

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    Says a lot when a country I've never even heard of is better than the ones in Euro qualifiers.

    Fifa Ranking

    60 Panama
    86 Curacao

    92 Luxembourg
    196 Liechtenstein
     
  2. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I dont think he'll retire. Messi is scoring at higher rate under Scaloni than under Sabella. 22 goals since January 2022. I remember before Sabella , he only has 16 goals in about 60 games at one point and failed to score in two consecutive tournaments.

    He's been managed by clowns like Bauza, Sampaoli , Diego & Bauza, even Tata has been a one-trick pony. Pekerman also denied Messi a chance of winning WC before age 20. Its often mentioned Messi failed in WC 2006 even though he didnt even play in that QF, not even as late sub.

    He's now scoring for fun in national team , still constantly assisting aswell.
     
  3. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Yeah, he's not retiring now when he's having the most fun without any pressure first time in his career. Might as well see the CA24 card, and then who knows.

    16 goals and 5 assists in 12 games for Argentina this season. Only failed to score against Poland in that run.
     
  4. Danko

    Danko Member+

    Barcelona
    Serbia
    Mar 15, 2018
    Messi plays until at least 2024 Copa America IMO.
     
  5. Serengeti_Boy

    Serengeti_Boy Member+

    Sep 15, 2009
    Serengeti, East Africa
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Tanzania
    Do you think he likes playing without pressure? Most elders do. He definitely must enjoy having ended the debate as well. Is it too much to ask to push for a last showing in USA?
     
  6. Serengeti_Boy

    Serengeti_Boy Member+

    Sep 15, 2009
    Serengeti, East Africa
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Tanzania
    What is his career best FK?


    For me the one vs Liverpool in 2019 SF of UCL.


     
  7. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Definitely without pressure now. It built up in every failed tournament to CA19. And something happened there in the Brazil game, and it's been all glory after that.
    That or against USA in CA SF.
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  8. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 5, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea LFC
    Messi should not play next World Cup imo. He has the perfect last dance. Another Copa next year is ok but not World Cup.

    His best fk is vs Liverpool. Gosh, he deserved to win UCL that season.
     
  9. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 5, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea LFC
    If he really returns this summer, i believe Xavi will do everything to build the team around him and we may see Messi performs 2018/19 level.
     
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  10. Serengeti_Boy

    Serengeti_Boy Member+

    Sep 15, 2009
    Serengeti, East Africa
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Tanzania
    Barca can't afford him. It's better he is gone seeing how Barca are having a court case.

    Also, on the Barca side that is wishful thinking that doesn't end up well. Enjoy his first and only phase and get new heroes.
     
  11. afar

    afar Member+

    Apr 26, 2007
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    Reports everywhere that any offer from Barca, and Messi will come.
     
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  12. LaPulga22

    LaPulga22 Member

    Messi FC
    Argentina
    Mar 10, 2023
    finally
     
  13. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    We apparently have to trim a FURTHER €200 million off the wage bill this summer so I don’t see how we can hope to pay for Messi
     
  14. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Unless he plays for free. Seems too good to be true though.
     
  15. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    From what I've seen PSG are facing a wage bill crunch due to the UEFA FFP situation. Apparently in January, PSG and Messi started negotiating a renewal but Messi given his image was given a bump due to winning the WC. PSG actually wanted to reduce his wages given their necessity to reduce wages. It's also probably one of the reasons they were already trying to sell Neymar last summer.

    This opened the door for Barca to try and sneak in and play the "come home and get your deserved farewell" card. One of the problems, other than the obvious financial hurdles Barca has coming up in the summer which will hinder its ability to even resign players, is if UEFA will take action regarding Barca's CL participation given the Negreira case. Apparently they don't even Barca to be guilty of match fixing to take action. And given UEFA has a beef to pick with Barca due to its involvement in the ESL, they may be trigger happy (just a speculation). But this is important because Messi's objective may still be compete in the CL. If that's somehow in danger, it may give Messi 2nd thoughts about joining the club again.

    I just hope that this isn't a game Messi is playing to get a better deal out of PSG. I also heard that his family also wants to return to Barcelona.
     
  16. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Excellent analysis on how Messi would fit into Xavi's team and problems it poses. The last part is probably the most important.

     
  17. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    [emoji599] Technogym (leader in home gym equipment) received an invoice of €100,000 yesterday in the name of Lionel Andrés Messi Cuccini to install a gym at his home in Barcelona.
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  18. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  19. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 5, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea LFC
    If Messi returns (i doubt it), should we create new thread like the return of the king?
     
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  20. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 5, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea LFC
    Three greatest players.
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  21. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
  22. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Just curious ... who here would like to see Messi return to the club ?
     
  23. LaPulga22

    LaPulga22 Member

    Messi FC
    Argentina
    Mar 10, 2023
    Stop it Barça litterally preparing an offer he will return read the latest reports every tier 1 source confirms it
     
  24. LaPulga22

    LaPulga22 Member

    Messi FC
    Argentina
    Mar 10, 2023
    @Ozora
     
  25. evil_allan

    evil_allan Member+

    May 3, 2004
    Turtle Island
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