Argentines who play for other national teams: would they make Argentina's squad?

Discussion in 'Argentina: Selecciones Nacionales' started by argentine soccer fan, Feb 9, 2006.

  1. Albiceleste2010

    Albiceleste2010 Member+

    Watford
    Argentina
    Jun 5, 2010
    Watford
    Club:
    Watford FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    CBs are well stocked that is if Mancini does not decide to have a look at Amione as well. LB lets lock down Valentin Barco as well. Yes that is slightly weak at the moment but Barco/Takahashi for the future would be great down the left hand side. Right hand side also needs some more depth. But there are options. Aude/Giay are possible seleccion fullbacks along with Blanco.

    Upfront yes. Puch (German origins) is a potential nine while we wait on the others like Lopez to step up. Really Tapia has to call FIFA and ask them to have a look at this. You simply cannot go around with a shopping list to another country and say you know what. Do you want to play for us ? If you do we'll offer you and your family a career here with a club and the national side.

    It makes a mockery of international competition. An absolute mockery. If you have issues with youth football as Mancini has alluded to then it's up to the clubs in Italy to look at what they need to improve and change and getting more kids into sport in general instead of growing fat playing FIFA or PES.

    What is really making me angry is that they are going after some of our brightest prospects like Prestianni and Puch. Supposing they do end up going there it's detrimental to our NT.

    Sure we'll keep on producing talent like that kid at Racing for instance and a couple of others but what is to stop them unless FIFA act, from coming in for them as well at some point ? It's a disgrace what they are up to. An absolute disgrace. And as mentioned most fans of the Azzurri are against it as well.

    They are using the economic situation here to lure kids away. Because kids are easy to pressure and mislead and being the good kids they are they'd love to secure their families futures.
     
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  2. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Mancini’s plan is to call-up four more Argentine players.

    Galoppo(Former Banfield and current São Paulo), Prestianni(Velez), Capaldo(Former Boca and current Salzburg) and Di Cesare(Argentinos Juniors).

    The Azzurri, Europe’s Paraguay.
     
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  3. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Lol you know it’s bad when you’re calling up Capaldo… reminds me of when they capped Paletta :ROFLMAO:

    Just stay away from Prestianni.. hopefully the kid is smart and says no
     
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  4. Loco

    Loco Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    May 1, 2005
    Miami
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I freaking hate what the Azzurri are doing. . . and btw, my dad and mom were born in Italy, I am first generation born outside of Italy (my 23AndMe is almost 100% Southern Italian) so its not an anti-Italian thing, but targeting Argentinean talent to steal is underhanded and AFA needs to move in to protect our future.

    Basically non-European players who can play in Europe are encouraged to obtain dual citizenships so it won't hurt their European club by counting as a non-Euro player. But if the player gets the dual citizenship, then they could get poached by the European nation that he applied for dual citizenship. This is typical European bullsh#t
     
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  5. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can understand it if it was a player here or there, at a position where they'd have no chance of making the seleccion, then good for them they get a chance at international football. But this widespread casting of the net and trying to get premier talent for free because of a one drop of blood rule is bullshit. Give an inch and they take the whole 9 yards.
     
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  6. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Yeah, I do not understand Capaldo. It tells me that they have not scouted him before. Unless he’s doing some things for Salzburg that we do not know about. As for Paletta, not only did he receive a call he played for them but 2 out of his 3 career caps was at the 2014 World Cup. Holy cow!:ROFLMAO:

    Prestianni is not going to play for them; I’m not pretty much convinced of this. He’s going to be in Europe soon enough and Aimar and Scaloni would’ve already had a word with them.
     
  7. Albiceleste2010

    Albiceleste2010 Member+

    Watford
    Argentina
    Jun 5, 2010
    Watford
    Club:
    Watford FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    He's had a solid season at Salzburg. Granted the league is not the best but he was decent in his European showing. But he is 24 and not pulling up trees on his metrics.
     
  8. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    #409 SupaMario, Mar 30, 2023
    Last edited: Mar 30, 2023
    https://www.tycsports.com/seleccion...ue-de-cerca-mancini-para-italia-id502255.html

    La Selección Argentina, atenta: los 16 futbolistas que sigue de cerca Mancini para Italia

    • Lucas Beltrán (River Plate)
    • Gianluca Prestianni (Vélez Sarsfield)
    • Mateo Tanlongo (Sportig de Lisboa)
    • Bruno Amione (Sampdoria)
    • Julián Aude (de Lanús, recién transferido a Los Angeles Galaxy de EEUU)
    • Valentín Carboni (Inter de Milán)
    • Franco Carboni (Monza)
    • Lucas Román (Barcelona)
    • Isaías Delpupo (Cagliari)
    • Marco Di Cesare (Argentinos Juniors)
    • Tiago Geralnik (Villarreal)
    • Facundo Buonanotte (Brighton)
    • Nicolás Capaldo (Salzburgo)
    • Matías Soulé (Juventus)
    • Juan Sforza (Newell's Old Boys)
    • Gino Infantino (Rosario Central)

    I know of pretty much everybody here besides Isaías Delpupo. A lot of these players will simply say no because again, they have been around the senior side.



     
  9. Loco

    Loco Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    May 1, 2005
    Miami
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    What makes Mancini so offensive, and even offensive to Italian fans, its that he is not allowing players to become adults and make a self-aware decision to no play for Argentina. A decision that a 17 year might grow up to resent.

    I don't know what the solution is, I don't think FIFA has really thought about it because it doesn't negatively impact the rich European nations. But my approach would be that;
    • A player is eligible to play for his country of birth, or natural citizenship, but if their home country does not give him a call-up by age 21, he can chose to play for another team.
    FIFA should step in to give the country of birth a chance to chose. I don't know what the perfect answer is, but something has to be done to protect the home country.
     
  10. Albiceleste2010

    Albiceleste2010 Member+

    Watford
    Argentina
    Jun 5, 2010
    Watford
    Club:
    Watford FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Sickening. Fingers crossed Mancini is removed from the job at Italy and Conte comes in. That might put a stop to this nonsense. Of that list the eight hghlighted all could well feature for the seleccion for the future. These plans are extremely detrimental to the national side. Sod off Mancini.
     
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  11. aerez

    aerez Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    10 on that list, The other Carboni and Beltran.
     
  12. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Lol bizarre seeing Zelarayan playing for Armenia..

    He scored 2 goals on Wales today for their 4-2 win
     
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  13. Albiceleste2010

    Albiceleste2010 Member+

    Watford
    Argentina
    Jun 5, 2010
    Watford
    Club:
    Watford FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    There's a small but well recognized Armenian community in Argentina many coming after the genocide committed by the Turks. He's not going to get capped by the seleccion even though he's done well in the MLS and he has Armenian heritage.
     
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  14. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Yeah, Briasco has also represented Armenia.

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  15. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  16. Loco

    Loco Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    May 1, 2005
    Miami
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I don't mind when players like Lucas Zelarayán, Norberto Briasco or Luciano Acosta choose to play for other national teams because they are now seasoned players who have no shot at playing for their home countries. That is fine, imo

    What gets me is the crap that Mancini was trying to pull of and calling-up (or I should state, steal) young players who are still developing. Forcing a young player to choose is so messed up. And Mancini is then forcing the other national teams to hurry-up the development of the young players, bc if the home countries don't act quickly, they could lose the young star. Not to mention that some of players he is trying to poach have never played in Italy and have no direct association with Italian football - no wonder they haven't made the WC in 8 years. And we know the Italian fans are also pissed and want their national team to develop their own talent.
     
  17. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Oh yeah, I don’t have a problem with it either. I know the title of this thread is “would they make the Argentina squad?”, but at this point for years I’ve just been using it as a general thread to track nationalized Argentines
     
  18. dna77054

    dna77054 Member+

    Jun 28, 2003
    houston
    He certainly has the tattoos, if not the talent, to fit in the with the Argentina NT.
     
  19. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Honestly wonder if he'd make the USA team either, but he'd be better depth than a guy like Roldan.
     
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  20. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    :confused::rolleyes:

     
  21. Loco

    Loco Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    May 1, 2005
    Miami
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Mancini es un HDP - Senesi has never even played in Italy. EVER. I think he will be called up for the September games for Argentina. So I am not worried.
     
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  22. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member+

    Barcelona
    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I honestly think he won't be selected as he faces too much competition in the CB areas, especially with Otamendi still in the team.
     
  23. Loco

    Loco Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    May 1, 2005
    Miami
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Mancini is a wannabe c0ckblocker
     
  24. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I grew up watching serie A and I know our players has big history there...They used to be my second team and I usually supports them at Euro, but Mancini makes me hope they fail to qualify for the WC 3 times in a row.
     
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