Next Coach

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by nbarbour, Dec 3, 2022.

  1. largegarlic

    largegarlic Member+

    Jul 2, 2007
    This ESPN article breaks down/speculates on the thought process of Brazil, Spurs, and Real Madrid with regard to coaches. Spurs want Pochettino back apparently, and Brazil definitely want Ancelotti. But Pochettino wants to wait for Madrid, if Ancelotti is going. It's not clear how much Madrid wants to keep Ancelotti at this point, but it seems like Brazil would have to pay up to get him out of his contract, if he isn't fired.

    Not that any of this has anything directly to do with the USMNT, but I thought it does underscore how hard (maybe impossible?) it will be to get a top coach like Ancelotti, especially when plum jobs like Brazil, Spurs, potentially Real Madrid, etc. remain open.
     
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  2. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think Brazil is definitely waiting on Ancelotti and seems to think they have a shot at him. And I definitely don't think he's coming to the USMNT over Brazil (unless he really wants to live in Vancouver and we are willing to let him). And there's a good chance he will leave Real Madrid this summer.

    I don't think Pochettino will end up back at Spurs though. He's certainly a sentimental choice, but alot of the focus has been on Luis Enrique (also a potential option for Brazil) and more recently they seem super interested in Nagelsmann. Now their director of football was just suspended today by FIFA so who knows how that will impact their coaching search.

    But in the end we need to get the sporting director search wrapped up soon (which seems doable given that they are in the second round of interviews), and get the process going. We should definitely ask someone like Ancelotti as to their interest even if the chances are low. Figure out who the interested coaches are and go from there.
     
  3. ChambersWI

    ChambersWI Member+

    Nov 10, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
     
  4. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    "Many names." Not helpful, Fabrizio.
     
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  5. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pep to the USMNT, Fabrizio Romano confirmed.
     
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  6. ChambersWI

    ChambersWI Member+

    Nov 10, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    In fairness he did say a bit more on the podcast lol. Basically all still depends on Earnie's replacement but word from agents is that there's a decent amount of coaches watching the job. Some interested some don't want the pressure
     
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  7. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It’s funny anyone would consider the USMNT high pressure.

    You got a lot of people on twitter who will get very worked up about you, but it’s definitely less pressure than being the coach of England or Brazil, and definitely less than being the coach of an EPL team.
     
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  8. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    At least we know that they cast a wide net.
     
  9. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I will say I don't actually think Berhalter should be back at this point, but there's a part of me that just wants to see the reaction if he returns.

    Berhalter derangement syndrome is a real thing.
     
  10. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    #3760 Excellency, Mar 30, 2023
    Last edited: Mar 30, 2023
    Well said.

    We live in an age where the manager has to manage social media as well as he manages the team and the USA players are immature in a "top 8" elite level sense. No doubt Romano speaks after talking among various managers (or getting it second hand from agents, as he says) about what they think of managing USA and his assessment is likely a collective opinion
     
  11. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Do you mean the reaction of the players to see if fatigue and frustration sets in, a little like in the Sep window or do you mean the public in general?
     
  12. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The reaction from the anti Berhalter crowd.

    I doubt there would be any public reaction from the player pool, who largely likes Berhalter.
     
  13. MayaDempsey

    MayaDempsey Member+

    Jul 29, 2014
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    If they don’t do it soon they’ll have to wait until the team falters. Hiring him after they win the Nations League will feel like a letdown…despite the teams success in the tournament when he was coach.
     
  14. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don’t think he’ll actually be rehired. Not unless the players really push for it. And while most like him, I also don’t know that they are going to get super involved in the coaching search.
     
  15. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    The April camp is MLS, right? Are there matches?
     
  16. MayaDempsey

    MayaDempsey Member+

    Jul 29, 2014
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Mexico in April and again in June. Wins in those games and it’s hard to rationalize the need for consistency in order to progress. Losses on the other hand….
     
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  17. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One symptom of BDS is the impulse to wish destruction upon the USMNT, by unleashing the 3G's Virus, simply to have the sadistic satisfaction of observing the pain of those who care about the USMNT.
     
  18. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    Can you point to an example of someone here wishing destruction upon the USMNT? Just one will do.
     
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  19. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think winning or losing those games makes any difference as to whether Berhalter will be back or not.

    My opinion is the chances are fairly low that he comes back at this point.

    I think we'll see a coach search that includes Cherundolo, Marsch, Curtin, and plausible European candidates like Vieira.

    I would like to see Brazil fill their coaching job though. To the extent there are big name candidates out there who are interested in taking a national team job, they are going to prefer Brazil to us. And Brazil for perhaps the first time ever, is very open to hiring a foreign coach.
     
  20. ifsteve

    ifsteve Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Jul 7, 2013
    MS and ID
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Really? I know you are on here plenty. There were a bunch of posts made where guys were saying stupid crap about losing or nor qualifying would be ok if it meant getting rid of Berhalter.
     
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  21. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    The original post implied that some of us would like to rehire Berhalter even if it meant USMNT destruction.
     
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  22. ifsteve

    ifsteve Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Jul 7, 2013
    MS and ID
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ok thanks for the clarification. Didn't take it that way at all.
    And for the record - rehiring Berhalter would in no way destruct the USMNT so not sure where that comment is coming from either?
     
  23. USOutlaw16

    USOutlaw16 Member+

    Green Bay Voyageurs
    United States
    Jan 22, 2011
    On the Gringo Wall of Shame
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Some symptoms may include:

    * Rose-tinted goggles for the Klinsmann era
    * Only criteria for the next manager being "foreign" and "Not an MLS coach" without taking any other factors into account (other US fans are the only fans I've met who have actually wanted Roberto Martinez as manager, for instance)
    * A refusal to look at the history of prior US teams who had done better or worse than the Berhalter-era.
    * Refusing to look at the background of players or certain hires. i.e. refusing to acknowledge that a good amount of our core came through MLS Academies or not looking at Earnie Stewart's background before (and after) his USSF tenure
    * Being terminally online, particularly on Twitter
     
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  24. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You forgot that MLS is a joke league because there's no relegation.
     
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  25. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Clearly the lack of relegation is Berhalter's fault.
     
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