The Adventures in Policing Thread Part II

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  1. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
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  2. superdave

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    Jul 14, 1999
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    Now, now, it wouldn’t be right to tar a whole group with the actions of one.
     
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  3. Auriaprottu

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    Well, that's what happened with Tulsa. And that guy didn't even do anything wrong.
     
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  4. msilverstein47

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    https://news.wjct.org/first-coast/2023-03-28/police-sergeant-arrested-battery-referee

    A homicide investigator for the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office has been arrested after he was accused of knocking a whistle from a referee's mouth during a children's soccer game.

    Sgt. Michael Russell, 46, was booked Tuesday on a charge of battery on a sports official, Sheriff T.K. Water said. Russell is the second Jacksonville police officer arrested this year.

    The case stems from a soccer game that Russell attended while off duty, out of uniform, on March 25. A fight broke out between the teams, and referees began blasting their whistles to break it up, Waters said. That is when Russell walked onto the field toward a referee and hit him in the face, "knocking the whistle out of his mouth," Waters said Tuesday.
     
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  5. dapip

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  6. Auriaprottu

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    Atlanta Damn United
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    Do we pay these guys too much, or do we not pay them enough?

    I'm thinking of a police academy that operates a lot like university ROTC. You get your degree first, THEN you join the force. Demand that they obtain a four-year degree and specify that it be in a certain kind of field- no criminal justice, none of those "White Hat" majors. Humanities majors... majors that will bring them into contact with people who will deliberately teach them that police brutality is not a good thing, that profiling is not a good thing... They can get that training in the academy. That way, we're discouraging the Rambo and John Wayne types from wanting to even go thru the process. Then you raise the salary to reflect the education they have. The degree requirement will weed out half the dumbasses who currently protect and serve their own interests. The major choices would weed out many more of the rest. If a hippie-turned social worker and a ninja had a baby, that's what you'd want in a cop...

    Thing is, there are folks who'd be in opposition to this.
     
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  7. dapip

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    NYPD likes their OT:

     
  8. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
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    Water is wet.
     
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  9. dapip

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    Police, Trumpism, Fox, all in one body:

     
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  10. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

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    Sep 6, 2001
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    "grave dander"?!?
    Get some Head and Shoulders, stat!

    Also, note it was 2019 when he argued we were in "grave dander" of losing control of the border.
    It was 2019, when he was whining about crime.
    -"Let's Go Branden"
     
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  11. Smurfquake

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    Aug 8, 2000
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    There's a line near the end of the story: "Wohl, who is Black, said he was horrified by the remarks, which he said suggested his race was a factor in his mistreatment by police."

    Oh, my stars. A suggestion that race is a factor in policing? Where is my fainting couch?
     
  12. The Jitty Slitter

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    #4487 The Jitty Slitter, Apr 9, 2023
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    If we aren't calling this the fascist timeline what are we calling it?

     
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  13. Chesco United

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    I think that Abbott can't unilaterally pardon him, he needs a recommendation from the Pardons and Paroles Board.
     
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  14. Deadtigers

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    He's going to make that board the bad guy. Because the board isn't going to recommend it and then he's going to say well look my hands are tied but still try and take credit for being about friend that guy. It's a classic Little Ron move. Make noise ghetto on Fox in the front page and then wait a week and put the corrections on page 50 by the lawyer ads.
     
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  15. The Jitty Slitter

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    “It's fascism, ain't it Sheriff?

    If it aint it'll do till a fascism gets here.”


    [​IMG]
     
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  16. superdave

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    So if there’s a pardon, we’re going to get that uniquely American absurdity where the feds are going to charge him with violating the victim’s civil rights by killing him.
     
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  17. Deadtigers

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    I would think some bureaucrat aka a guy just doing his job aka deep state, will point out that you have to let the sentencing happen as well as appeal before you overturn a decision. I am assuming that would be board policy.
     
  18. Auriaprottu

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    #4493 Auriaprottu, Apr 9, 2023
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    Whatever it takes
    If they hadn't paedoned him to begin with, it wouldn't be necessary
     
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  19. Deadtigers

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    The uniquely American bit, that is only because Southern states insist on having separate but equal in some form so the feds had to find a work around. If we were more normal Nation we would have a stronger federal government being able to tell these states to shut up.
     
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  20. superdave

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    I know the historical context. This isn’t the first time I’ve made the observation that “violating civil rights” is an oversanitized describe what this man did. He’s got lots of Rittenhouse energy, but worse. One, he’s older and should ********ing know better. Two, he was hunting for humans, that was his stated purpose! At least Rittenhouse was going where there was vandalism. Not saying what Rittenhouse did was OK, just that he at least had a plausible positive reason for going to…Kenosha, right? Finally, as I understand it, Rittenhouse did legit see a danger..,it was one he created, sure, but there were armed protestors in a volatile situation. I see his actions as similar to George Zimmerman…instigate a conflict yourself, then use deadly violence to end the conflict,

    It’s just, when you read “violated civil rights,” what do you think of? Denying the right to vote, or access to the Woolworth lunch counter, stuff like that. Not shooting a guy more or less in cold blood.
     
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  21. Auriaprottu

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    Who's on the board?
     
  22. soccernutter

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    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
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    Yup. And he showed up with a gun. Because vandalism.

    Stop making excuses. Was Rittenhouse intending to use the gun he brought? That's a different question. But he wasn't going just because of the vandalism.
     
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  23. Auriaprottu

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    That, and Jorge Zimmermann saw a victim he knew he could kill and still walk.
     
  24. Smurfquake

    Smurfquake Moderator
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    I looked it up a couple of days ago. There's seven people, appointed by the governor. I didn't recognize any of the names - it is probably the kind of thing that goes to people who donate a certain amount, like ambassadorships or whatever.

    It's not clear if the board has any rules that say they can't override a jury or anything like that. Texas might be the kind of "law and order" (snicker) state where they don't want anyone getting any ideas that maybe the black guy didn't do it and deserves a pardon, so they put this board in the state constitution to make sure that the black person who gets convicted, stays convicted, and it doesn't come up very often that a white person gets convicted and needs a pardon.
     
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  25. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
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    DC United
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    United States
    So you don’t think this guy acted more malevolently than Rittenhouse? Ok, agree to disagree.
     

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