Rebuilding The Azzurri for Euro 2024 and beyond

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  1. Mankini

    Mankini Member

    Lazio
    Italy
    Mar 25, 2023
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    Yeah man. Can't believe he didn't know that.
     
  2. Alex101

    Alex101 Member

    Mar 15, 2017
    Conte still has nightmares of the Parolo-Stuaro-Giaccherini midfield vs Germany at euro 2016
     
  3. Mankini

    Mankini Member

    Lazio
    Italy
    Mar 25, 2023
    Coverciano 24/7
    Conte can revive Jorginho as an AM. If anyone can do it, it's Antonio.
     
  4. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Remember when.....

    [​IMG]
     
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  5. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    IMO the most underrated Azzurri kit..Not the most beautiful..but the most underrated.
     
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  6. Mankini

    Mankini Member

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    #2731 Mankini, Mar 31, 2023
    Last edited: Mar 31, 2023
    Furthermore, we cannot play an Ancelotti system now because not only are we missing the brains in the midfield in a Modric, but we don't have an engine like Kroos.

    We were hoping that Pellegrini and Locatelli could eventually emerge as those players but injuries, poor form and not fitting into the system of their respective managers is a problem that keeps us to our 3 man midfield that when in form can still perform. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

    Give me a brain and engine and I'll have Carlo's team ready for him to complete in 2 years time.
     
  7. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Don Carlo won the champions league last year with a 4-3-3.
     
  8. Mankini

    Mankini Member

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    Mar 25, 2023
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    #2733 Mankini, Mar 31, 2023
    Last edited: Mar 31, 2023
    And? Do we have a Kroos or Modric?

    You don't actually think a formation that lines up in a certain configuration always operates the same way, do you? Our three man midfield operates much differently than Madrid's. Vini Jr. operates more like a winger that tracks back, than a forward when he needs. He's very much like Spinazzola in his role he just lines up like a forward and operates like one deep in attack but he's not afraid of doing some dirty work for Carlo.

    Carlo won the Champions league with 46% possession, with 4 shots to Liverpool's 25, 2 on net to Liverpool's 9. That game was a Courtois masterclass as it was one on clinical finishing. We haven't had that in forever.


    Carlos 4-3-3 is better than mine and can transition to defense quicker without giving away the kind of chances we do and they have Benzema. I hope I've addressed the striker position. Now we have the central defense to fix.

    We have to find players that can work Carlo's system before he's willing to take over.
     
  9. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Couldn’t u look at a base of barella and veratti and then use a 10? I like Jorginho but he’s not as good as he was at the base of your 433 in the euros

    I feel like you have a competent side that has some great players in midfield. Has Mancini said that I signed is not going to be picked due to his move?
     
  10. Mankini

    Mankini Member

    Lazio
    Italy
    Mar 25, 2023
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    Jorginho doesn't tackle anymore so he's become a major problem. I was hoping that Pellegrini would emerge in the Nation's League. He looked good vs England and in the first game vs Germany. If he's in then Barella needs to cover more ground but he's always tired too. If Max Allergies didn't miss play Locatelli, he was my choice.

    Moving forward we need Locatelli, Tonali and Pellegrini to emerge in their roles, or if a Fagioli surpasses them then I'm ready to bring him in.
     
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  11. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
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    Club:
    SSC Napoli
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    Milan have figured that for the same price to activate Brahmin’s permanent transfer, they can get Baldanzi who is younger, better and Italian.

    Now Maldini is cooking with gas
     
  12. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    With Osimhen injured in the most crucial point of the season, Napoli fans can sleep well at night knowing we have Simeone and Raspadori ready to play
     
  13. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
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    Better than brahimdinho? You've lost your mind, professor.
     
  14. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
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    Roberto, I'm glad you've joined the forum and share your opinions
     
  15. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
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    Italy
    If Brahimaldo was as good as you think he is, Milan would have made his move permanent already.

    You will sign Baldanzi. You will enjoy Baldanzi
     
  16. Vieri's Left Foot

    Roma
    Italy
    Jun 8, 2022
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    indestructible has spoken
     
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  17. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
    Club:
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    Italy
    No country in the world currently has a midfield that rivals those Madrid powerhouse units.

    Is there any NT grouping of midfielders you would take over Italia's at the moment? There's not many that have a better collective group. Why wouldn't you want as many midfielders on the field if that's our best depth / talent. We are not straying away from the 3.

    Don Carlo has also been rumoured with Brazil. Is he better off with a midfield two of Casemiro w/ Paqueta (who played much of their WC2022 together) then Verratti, Barella and Co?
     
  18. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

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    Jan 14, 2007
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    Club:
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    Italy
    If we have to wait for Italy to produce Galactico level talent before Ancelotti feels it's safe to coach Italy, we're gonna wait a long time
     
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  19. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
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    You racist to an African?? I find that surprising.

    I hope he's better than saponara/.Giacomo Bonaventura lmao
     
  20. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

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    Jan 14, 2007
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    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Have respect for JACK Bonaventura
     
  21. Alex101

    Alex101 Member

    Mar 15, 2017
    I saw today that Lecces Primavera squad field 11 foriegners in their starting lineup and their sporting director complaining that italians are too expensive to develop. Im so sick of these clubs making up excuses. Italy is the only country in Europe that has in for thier own players and its all changed once foreign owners took over Serie A clubs.
     
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  22. Mankini

    Mankini Member

    Lazio
    Italy
    Mar 25, 2023
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    Ancelotti can make a midfield with Verratti work, but he needs engine, Kroos, and Locatelli was the one we thought could fill that position. Max Allergies and his system is not helping.

    You want to keep seeing Jorginho play?

    I don't understand your question. 3 is bare minimum. Spain sometimes plays with 6.

    Brazil has better defenders and strikers. He can find creativity from other positions. They are just rumors. He'll take over when I'm finished.
     
  23. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #2748 falvo, Mar 31, 2023
    Last edited: Mar 31, 2023
    I believe it was Antonio Cassano who said all the players who came up with him on Bari's Primavera were all "raccomandati".

    Or rather, sons of layers, judges, store and supermarket owners as they were the only ones who could afford to have their kids train every day.

    Then if you were good enough to make the first team, they would take you and if not, they would release you.

    Cassano was a gem and signed as did Ventola who came up before him but the rest were all crap and released as at that point. no one cared what their father did.
     
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  24. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy

    no i def don't want to see Jorginho play anymore for the NT.

    I know this won't be a popular opinion on these boards.. but I actually like Bryan Cristante in a midfield 3. He offers something a lot of the other midfielders dont.. height.
     
  25. Vieri's Left Foot

    Roma
    Italy
    Jun 8, 2022
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I forwarded this line-up to Mancini's office. I know Raspadori and DiMarco aren't healthy, and I left off other injured/not-called players who might be good choices (Chiesa, Zaccagni, Frattesi). Whatever. I'm spit-balling.

    My basic mindset for this line-up is: Dalic looked at his 2016-2018 Croatia squad and said to himself, Most of my best players are midfielders. Therefore, I'm going to play as many of them, even if I could play a lesser player in his natural position. That worked pretty well. Italy doesn't have Modric, but if they played more of their best players, they might find something.

    Or, Mancini could actually pick and play the best forwards. But, if he doesn't, or if they aren't healthy, what's the point in hoping back-ups play like starters when you have better quality in the midfield?

    Thoughts?
     

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