The in-betweens - non-House/Senate/President elections in 2023/2024

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  1. soccernutter

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    Putting this here as it is related..

    https://www.jsonline.com/story/news...ng-protasiewicz-if-hes-in-senate/70052973007/

    In an appearance on WISN-TV's political talk show "UpFront," Knodl said the "Milwaukee County justice system is failing" and said he believes its prosecutors and circuit court judges "need to be looked at" including Milwaukee County District Attorney John Chisholm and Protasiewicz.

    "She has failed," Knodl said. When asked directly if he would support impeaching Protasiewicz, Knodl said "I certainly would consider it."

    If y'all are not aware, Protasiewicz is running against Kelly for the open seat on the Wis Supreme Court. As discussed above, Kelly is MAGA.

    @xtomx is that your Senate District?
     
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  2. xtomx

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    No, Knodl is from Germantown and the district is the northern suburbs of Milwaukee. This is fortunate, as the Democrat, Habush, has a shot at winning, which would not be the case by me.
    My district runs northwest from Wausau, in deep Red territory.
     
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  3. soccernutter

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    I hope Knodl's comments get messaged. So far we have been doing well, at least as far as I have seen. Plenty of social media adverts, both for Janet and against Kelly.
     
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  4. soccernutter

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    And as I saw yet another this morning, I realized that I haven't seen any in support of Kelly. Unlike the last several campaigns where the Reps were heavily on Social Media apps, this is a nice change.
     
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  5. xtomx

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    There have been a bunch of ads with Sheriffs and police fellating Kelly.
    Other than that, attack ads are all I have seen.
     
  6. soccernutter

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    Been so focused on the WisSC race that I hadn't looked at the full ballot.

    As should be noted, there are a lot of other judicial races.
    And then there are these:

    QUESTION 1: “Conditions of release before conviction. Shall section 8 (2) of article I of the constitution be amended to allow a court to impose on an accused person being released before conviction conditions that are designed to protect the community from serious harm?”

    Basically, it lets the legislature define "violent crime," which they have in more strict terms. Currently there is a bill-in-waiting to be passed and this amendment will put it into law. It also defines "violent crime" as $2500 of property damage.

    QUESTION 2: “Cash bail before conviction. Shall section 8 (2) of article I of the constitution be amended to allow a court to impose cash bail on a person accused of a violent crime based on the totality of the circumstances, including the accused’s previous convictions for a violent crime, the probability that the accused will fail to appear, the need to protect the community from serious harm and prevent witness intimidation, and potential affirmative defenses?”

    This is a driver to get Republican turnout. Judges already have this discretion, but it basically puts a stricter expectation (requirement?) on judges when and when not to allow cash bail. And we all know the problem with bail on poor people.

    QUESTION 3: “Shall able-bodied, childless adults be required to look for work in order to receive taxpayer-funded welfare benefits?”

    Non binding as there is already a law on the books for this. It's a ploy to get more Reps to vote.

    And for Milwaukee County
    Should Wisconsin Statute 940.04, which bans abortion at any stage of pregnancy without exception for rape, incest, or health of the patient, be repealed to allow legal access to abortion care?

    This won't have any effect other than as a protest vote. But I'm going to vote for it anyway.

    https://www.wuwm.com/2023-03-27/what-2023-april-election-wisconsin-referendums-meaning
     
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  7. xtomx

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    I have been thinking a lot about these

    They are all awful, especially the third one, for the reasons you state.

    The SOLE reason for putting them in the ballot is to bring the haters out to the polls.

    Many counties have the woman's health question. Mine does not.
     
  8. superdave

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    They really hate democracy, don’t they?
     
  9. soccernutter

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    [​IMG]
     
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  10. EvanJ

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    Democrats won control 102-101. Before Zabel, a Republican resigned, and there are two special elections on May 16. Republicans will take control if they win both, but Zabel won by 30 last year, so that is unlikely.

    Here is a schedule:

    April 4:
    Colorado: Mayor of Colorado Springs (possible runoff on May 16) and mayor of Denver (possible runoff on June 6)
    Illinois: Mayor of Chicago runoff
    Missouri: Mayor of Kansas City primary
    Nebraska: Mayor of Lincoln primary
    Wisconsin: One state supreme court to determine control, questions that were already posted, Senate District 8 (which determines if Republicans get a supermajority), and mayor of Madison

    After a few weeks break, May 2 has:
    Indiana: Mayor of Fort Wayne primary and mayor of Indianapolis primary
    Massachusetts: House Districts Suffolk 9 and Suffolk 10 primaries
    Nebraska: Mayor of Lincoln
    Ohio: Mayor of Columbus primary

    Texas will elect some mayors on Saturday May 6:
    Arlington, Dallas, Fort Worth, Garland, Irving, Plano, and San Antonio
     
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  11. ceezmad

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  12. ArsenalMetro

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    Even is a stretch at the moment, but it's interesting that Vallas seems capped out at 46%. You don't want to be in his position and unable to crack 50 in any poll.

    I'd bet plenty that whoever wins ends up being a one-termer.
     
  13. EvanJ

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    Wikipedia has Vallas up in seven polls, Johnson up in three polls, and a tie in the poll you linked to. There were nine candidates. Vallas got 32.90 percent, Johnson got 21.63 percent, and incumbent Lori Lightfoot was third with 16.81 percent.

    Johnson was endorsed by Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, ten current House members, and Jesse Jackson. Vallas was endorsed by Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin, House member Bobby Rush who represents Chicago and Joliet, former governor Pat Quinn (who became governor when Rod Blagojevich was impeached and removed for selling the Senate seat President Obama resigned from), and the Chicago Tribune. The Chicago Sun-Times did not endorse.

    Having one primary for all candidates is unusual for Congress as only Alaska, California, Louisiana, and Washington do that, but many cities do that for mayor.
     
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  14. ArsenalMetro

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    Quinn chose Vallas as his running mate in his ill-fated 2014 re-election bid.

    Quinn followed that up with a failed petition campaign to create term limits for Chicago mayor, a loss in the AG primary in 2018, and a flirtation with a mayoral run this year that crashed before it took off. Him managing to become Governor at all is a funny twist of fate given how lousy he is at politics.

    As an aside, the Sun-Times didn't choose not to endorse in this election; they don't endorse as a matter of policy now, since they were purchased by the local public radio outlet.
     
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  15. soccernutter

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    Voted. All booths were filled, as two were coming in as I walked out.

    I usually vote late to get turnout, but it's gonna rain and thunder for the rest of the day around this area. Hope that causes Republican turnout to decrease.
     
  16. dapip

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    Probably good news:

     
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  17. Funkfoot

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    Fingers crossed for the cheeseheads.
     
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  18. soccernutter

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    Holy shit!

    By contrast, there were 741,795 absentee ballots in the 2022 general.
     
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  21. onefineesq

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    Race has been called for Janet. Wisconsin has been saved, to an extent. Glory be!
     
  22. ArsenalMetro

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    Brandon Johnson is going to end up winning this Chicago mayoral race kind of comfortably.

    Perhaps being endorsed for Chicago mayor by Betsy DeVos wasn't helpful for Vallas, in the end. A real surprise.
     
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  23. soccernutter

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    Slightly. Let's keep a watch on the District 8 race. A R win gives them a supermajority, so Evers veto won't mean anything.
     
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  24. xtomx

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    Knodl wins.

    The Legislature will suck for the next 18 months.

    However, the Supreme Court has been saved.

    What I saw of Dan Kelly's concession speech was grotesque.
     
  25. EvanJ

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    Protasiewicz won because she had wins or small losses in a lot of southern counties, not just Milwaukee and Dane with Madison. Kelly is not dominating rural counties, as he is rarely above 65 percent. I read a comparison of the 2012 and 2020 presidential elections in the midwest. The cities and suburbs had some get more Democratic and some get more Republican, while rural counties got much more Republican.

    Republicans do not have a supermajority in the state assembly, which is 64-35.
     
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