Ukraine v Russia II

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  1. Belgian guy

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    Did I just see them destroy seven tanks/armoured vehicles in a single video? That's insane. Their vehicle losses must be absurdly high.
     
  2. The Jitty Slitter

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    which I won’t defend with my 2000 exploded panzers
     
  3. babaorum

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    Rare picture of a French Rafale exercising with a nuclear cruise missile on the Charles de Gaulle aircraft career. In terms of deterrence, one quiet photo is worth 1000 threatening words by Soloviev and Simonyan.

     
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  4. It's called "return a favour":)
     
  5. :mad:
    Don't you mind my nocturnal peace

    Thank you for rescuing me from sleepness nights:unsure:
     
  6. rslfanboy

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    ******** yeah!!!!! Pictures!!!!!
     
  7. Pootin has published his 42 page long statement on the new foreign policy of Russia.
    He states Russia is a huge Eurasian and Euro-pacific power.
    If you feel you have to mention that in an official document, you probably arenot or stopped being one.
    In it he also mentions a new strategy of using the military for deterrence and prevention of aggression against Russia by foreign states.
    Also he calls India and China as the new allies against the west.

    Well, I'm impressed and shivering in my boots by the thought of that mighty army rolling this way.:rolleyes:
     
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  8. waitforit

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    #8883 waitforit, Mar 31, 2023
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    I am sure that 97% of the working land forces Russia has (anti air excluded) is in Ukraine right now

    The Russian Navy is intact even with Moskva gone and the Airforce is mostly intact but the pride and jewel of Russian: The Land Forces are expended

    That 97% is pulled out of my behind but I doubt the number is off the mark
     
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  9. Yoshou

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    If you'll recall the videos of Russians assaulting a small trench in a tree line while they were being shelled by Ukrainian artillery and then smacked around by Ukrainian vehicles.. We discovered in a later tweet that the Russians were able to take the trench later that night..

    Well, here is the video of the Ukrainians coming back and taking the trench the next day.. The Russians clearly don't have any ATGMs (although, it looks like they shoot something, but miss) as 2 T-72s and a BPM-2 roll up on the trench and then proceed to shoot at it as they move ever closer.. All of that being said, WTF didn't the Russians surrender? They were clearly outgunned by the tank and their only hope was that the tank missed until it ran out of shells and had to retreat because of that.. However, we see at the end of the video that the tank did not run out of shells before it cleared the trench.

     
  10. RafaLarios

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    I have never fired a tank shell before, nor went inside a T-72.. but damn.. that aim has horrible, also thankfully the ukranians made out alive because those tactics were awful, the tank should be easy pickings for any anti tank squad.
     
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  11. The Jitty Slitter

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    I guess they only had one ATGM
     
  12. yasik19

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    I assume those tactics were aligned to some recon work....but yea, no idea how hard can it be to hit a trench....does the barrel not lower to that level?
     
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  13. Yoshou

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    It is worth pointing out that a lot of the shots were short of the trench, meaning they were aiming too low. So.. I'm going to say, being able to lower the barrel low enough was not an issue. That being said, it really did seem like there was an issue with the turret on that tank. It seemed to me that there was only so far to the right that they could turn the turret because they turned that tank a lot of the time rather than the turret. Of course, that could have been because they wanted to keep the thick front armor towards the trench, but still.. Everything about the aiming was jerky and not a smooth transition.
     
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  14. yasik19

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    It seems this would have been a good time for a precise drone attack with those cheap explosives dropped from above (as the Russians were focused on the tank)....save those shells please.
     
  15. Belgian guy

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    Did he also mention that every woman says his dong is the biggest they have ever seen?
     
  16. waitforit

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    Dear twitter morons who want joke about this war

    This is funny



    This is not



    This not Ukraine related still funny

     
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  17. The Jitty Slitter

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    It's possible they didn't want to expose the tracks to RPG fire as we know the Russian infantry in the previous attack carried those. Even smaller weapons can damage a track.

    I don't know what modern tanker doctrine is. I know the Wehrmacht used to set up with the turret at 45 degrees as this increases the effective thickness of your armour against AP rounds - there is old footage of them set up this way. I'd guess against dug in infantry you try to stay front on?
     
  18. The Irish Rover

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  19. The Jitty Slitter

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  20. The Irish Rover

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    March is now over. During this extra-long month, Russia has captured a grand total of . . . WAIT FOR IT!!! . . . 70km².

    At this rate, Gerasimov and Putin can wrap up the Special Military Operation in . . . (checks notes) . . . 60,000 years.

    World's second-strongest military. :confused:
     
  21. waitforit

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    YES !!!!!! I agree!

    Also related I found this very relevant



    In other news Russia will stick with the Bucha was a false flag by Ukraine. I thought they settled on didn't happen at all/staged but hey call me shocked. Also shocked they stuck with the Simon Hersh variant so Russia can still surprise me

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  22. Boandlkramer

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  23. Ceres

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    #8898 Ceres, Apr 1, 2023
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    There were a lot of "doom and gloom" headlines and breaking news in the media last year, talking about Europe "freezing over" in the winter, the industry going bankrupt and closing down because of the high gas and oil prices (which are now not high at all, but at a low), and people starving, which never happened, but turned out to be Russian propaganda at work. Here in the Nordic countries all the opposite happened. The (propaganda inflated) Russian economy on the other hand, is in a irreversible downwards spiral.
     
  24. Ceres

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    The Nordic countries may seem fairly small in population, but have a larger GDP than Russia, not to forget that Finland have a fairly large army, especially prepared and focused on a fight with the Russians, and Sweden a considerable large production and export of all kinds of modern weaponry, including fighter jets, self-propelled artillery, anti-tank missiles and are now gladly supplying Ukraine with what they are asking for, while Sweden and Finland before Putin's invasion, in all honesty were for the most part not doing much if anything at all, when it came US-lead operations in far-away countries, of no real importance up North.
     
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  25. Ceres

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    #8900 Ceres, Apr 1, 2023
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    The Nordic countries have now agreed to establish a unified air defence :

     

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