Folarin Balogun at AS Monaco

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  1. comoesa

    comoesa Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Christen Press's armpit
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Scored a forwards goal. Translate at any level with requisite service. Probably going to PSV next season if his Bundesliga club doesn't force him to play for them.
     
  2. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    Kane has great movement. All the elite strikers do. He knows where to be, and that's mostly what goalscoring is all about.
     
  3. Ray Shoesmith

    Ray Shoesmith Member+

    Valencia
    United States
    Nov 14, 2021
    Jesus H. Yup, that is what Kane‘s game is all about for FK’s sake. Isn‘t it?

    Another pseudo europhile you are responding to with no clue what matters. Good grief.
     
  4. irvine

    irvine Member

    Nov 24, 1998
    S. Portland, ME
    This suggests a weakness in the xG stat, no? Because there are a lot of situations where a goal seems likely but the final touch never happens.

     
  5. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    - I dont watch EPL. Any time I have watched Kane, havent been uber impressed. he did nothing vs USMNT in qatar - looked totally pedestrian in that match. Kane seems to put up stats from his transfermarkt - but how many trophies does he have? he is good compared to any rando professional - but is he good on a WC level?? .....

    let me know next time tottenham or england win anything with him as their starting striker.

    from the highlghts i have seen of balogun, I prefer him to Kane. his style is more effective, imo
     
  6. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think the thing is it’s not a perfect statistic.

    But it’s generally a poor sign if a player scores a ton of goals but they are very much over-performing their xG that’s a usually a sign that they will likely come back down to earth.
     
  7. no exit

    no exit Member+

    DC United
    United States
    Nov 20, 2019
    A little bit, yeah. I think that type of thing is why single-game xG can be deceptive, but over the course of the season you'd expect, say, the forward to catch up more often than not to the ball rolling invitingly across the face of goal.
     
  8. adi21

    adi21 Member

    The ones that have Americans starting
    United States
    Mar 17, 2001
    Maryland
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  9. lmorin

    lmorin Member+

    Mar 29, 2000
    New Hampshire
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good comment. My thoughts about Sancho differed. He came into Dortmund on fire and earned himself a place and contributed to CP's displacement from the lineup. But in the last season and a half, his performance diminished. He controlled the ball well and was a good team player, but did not make nearly as many commanding performances as he did initially. It was for that reason that I was against his move to ManU. As a fan of ManU, I thought his form had changed to such a degree that he could not bring his best to the club. So fart, I've been correct, but he may prove me wrong under ten Hag's guidance.
     
  10. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    https://worldsoccertalk.com/news/ba...t-too-late-for-usmnt-20230329-WST-425773.html

    welp Balogun is meeting now with England - so nothing seems decided - perhaps he was using the trip to the USA to light a fire under England all along - i'm sure England will tell him what he wants to hear.....

    I think this is far from decided.....
     
  11. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
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    --other--
    There's nothing in there that you didn't know already. I now think it's a done deal persoanlly, it has to be, the unfollowing of England accounts and deleting his England images would be very childish otherwise.
     
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  12. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #887 bshredder, Mar 30, 2023
    Last edited: Mar 30, 2023
    The fact that England is sending its U-21 coach to meet with Balogun is the most telling part of this. If they were really serious about keeping him, Southgate would go.

    The whole reason why Balogun is thinking about leaving England is because he's with the U-21 team as opposed to the main team, and now England is sending its U-21 coach to try to keep him?
     
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  13. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    so Hudson - acting USMNT senior coach - meets with Balogun and he socializes with US players in Orlando ....

    Lee Carsley (U21 coach) just like you said - talks to the BBC about the situation ...

    https://sbisoccer.com/2023/03/engla...o-convince-folarin-balogun-for-permanent-stay

    he could always go with England ... but fact is that he is behind Nketiah and Kane and Rashford ....

    the US is at home for the big dance in 2026 and Flo has a strong chance to be "the man" on the worlds biggest stage .... and to play with all the US young guns. He frankly can have the best of both worlds - possibly come back to Arsenal to enjoy life in London - while travelling across the pond to play for the US and enjoy all the US sports and other cultural aspects.
     
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  14. kruck

    kruck Member+

    Jan 12, 2008
    Houston, TX
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    Inter-personal relations don’t seem to be the English strong suit
     
  15. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not actually sure he was at fault, but some of the England fans also blame the U21 coach for losing Musiala.

    I'm not sure why Southgate is being so indifferent about the situation. He doesn't have to promise the guy a call up, but there are still ways of making sure he feels valued.
     
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  16. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
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    I think he's relaxed partly because he just doesn't rate him, and if he was willing to stick to his principles with Musiala then he's definitely not going to bend for Balogun.
     
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  17. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    is it English arrogance or stupidity?
     
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  18. laxcoach

    laxcoach Member+

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    Jul 29, 2017
    intermountain west
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    I see arrogance as a display of stupidity more or less.
     
  19. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    I accept that
     
  20. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    and an excess of riches.
     
  21. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would like to think anyone scoring 20 goals a season (or on pace to) in one of Europe’s big 5 leagues could or should have access to the head coach of his national team.

    For elite soccer nations, that still might not be enough to get you on the national team but it should be enough where you can talk to your national team coach and get a straight answer.

    I could see Brazil or Argentina’s head coach keeping tabs on a 21 year old who has 17 goals in 27 games for a Ligue 1 team. Maybe it’s not enough for a call-up, but I’d imagine the dialogue would be there.

    I could see Balogun getting upset that he’s not getting a clear picture where he stands
     
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  22. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    Seems to me that they’ve made it crystal clear where he stands. And that’s why he flew to Florida.
     
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  23. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Man I hate when posters gas off around here. This take stinks...
     
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  24. USA-Zebuel

    USA-Zebuel Member+

    Mar 26, 2013
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    Yeah, sometimes the silent take can be the most deadly.
     
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  25. lmorin

    lmorin Member+

    Mar 29, 2000
    New Hampshire
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sorry. I deserve that. Old Confucius saying, "Me who cut fart in church, sit in own pew."
     
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