Welcome Mesut Ozil! The Gunners nation salute you!

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  1. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
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    Arsenal FC
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    England
    Ozil was a great player on the wrong team

    giroud ozil and Sanchez just wasn’t it

    individually great but none of them suited each other

    Aubameyang would’ve been perfect for ozil
     
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  2. ArsenalJake

    ArsenalJake Member+

    Feb 11, 2013
    Charlotte
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    Ozilmeyang?

    Aubamezil?

    Pierre Mezut Aubamözil!!!

    Yes please!
     
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  3. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    If Arsenal get Ozil a year earlier maybe RVP stays. That would have been a nice combination.
     
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  4. ArsenalJake

    ArsenalJake Member+

    Feb 11, 2013
    Charlotte
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    While true, the only reason Ozil even became available for transfer was because Real signed Gareth Bale. That's it. Ozil was completely blindsided by all of it. Ronaldo was even famous for saying "why Ozil, why not De Maria?" due to how many assists came from the German.

    Nobody saw the Ozil to Arsenal transfer coming. At the time, it was a game changer for Arsenal, and completely out of character for Wenger. To the point where I'd argue it bought Wenger his final 5 seasons at the club. Without the Ozil signing, Wenger would not have lasted until 2018 as manager.
     
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  5. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    Real just needed to buy Bale a year earlier.
     
  6. Serengeti_Boy

    Serengeti_Boy Member+

    Sep 15, 2009
    Serengeti, East Africa
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    Tanzania
    Wasn't RVP not not offered a contract?
     
  7. Serengeti_Boy

    Serengeti_Boy Member+

    Sep 15, 2009
    Serengeti, East Africa
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    Arsenal FC
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    Tanzania
    It was amazing how good it looked on paper but not that great on pitch. Özil through passes to Giroud who was not a runner. Giroud passes to Sanchez expecting a return cross as he makes a run but Sanchez shoots because he was selfish. Giroud nods it down for a Mesut finish but finishing was not his strong suit.
     
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  8. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Theo was supposed to be the quick player but of course he got injured.

    Typical Wumger. If only he could have brought a fast winger. But lacazette!
     
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  9. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    The thing is it was reasonably good but this is all about the margins - so it lacked 5% or so

    We were all thinking if only Wumger could sign an elite 9 things would be so much better, but the offensive output of Ozil/Giroud/Alexis was very high, and basically the thing holding together a very leaky ship

    There was a fascinating data analysis which showed the collapse of Arsenal coincided pretty directly with the winding down of the Ozil/Giroud/Alexis era.

    Giroud himself kind of summarises the era - a borderline elite player with some big flaws.
     
  10. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    Have you forgotten the infamous letter to the fans explaining why he had to leave. RVP forced his way out. IIRC he was refusing to sign a new contract. I’m not sure you could really blame him for feeling Arsenal lacked ambition with Cesc and Nasri leaving the year before.
     
  11. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    I am glad he left and pretty much won a league title single handed.

    he wasted his career on dino.

    ditto cesc. He left and won things instead of wasting more years on a mediocre manager.
     
  12. Serengeti_Boy

    Serengeti_Boy Member+

    Sep 15, 2009
    Serengeti, East Africa
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    Arsenal FC
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    Tanzania
    Truth. They really waited a lot.

    Giroud also peaked after leaving.
     
  13. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    I see it as quite similar to Pogba - he wasted his entire peak career on a mediocre Man U side and failed managers. Of course he could have done more, but most of the time he was playing with colleagues who just couldn't play football properly which inevitably drags you down to their level.
     
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  14. maskito

    maskito Member+

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    Jan 14, 2006
    Nashville
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    Considering how many games RVP missed due to injuries when he was here, forcing his way out the way he did was a particularly bad look.
     
  15. ArsenalJake

    ArsenalJake Member+

    Feb 11, 2013
    Charlotte
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    The title he won at yanited completed the little boy inside RvP.

    I wonder if the grown man inside RvP today trades that title in for legendary status at Arsenal?

    Might depend on the day, I suppose.

    But there's no list of legendary players for Man U that features RvP.
     
  16. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
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    Me and @DutchCane said it a few years later, but Gervinho would have 400 shots and have scored 25 goals with Ozil.
     
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  17. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    One of the reason those guys were injured so much is they got no protection from the refs

    It's why I advocated Cesc leaving before someone ended his career
     
  18. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    He won their last ever title and ushered in the decade of failure

    Pretty legendary IMO
     
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  19. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    Sent Fergie out a winner, which, while I hate to admit it, Fergie probably deserved.
     
  20. Serengeti_Boy

    Serengeti_Boy Member+

    Sep 15, 2009
    Serengeti, East Africa
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    Arsenal FC
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    Tanzania
    Funny you write this. I see Bruno doing the same thing currently.
     
  21. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
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    True. But RvP's worst injury while an Arsenal player came on international duty. And Cesc's worst injury with us was ironically (maybe) from a tackle by his buddy Alonso.
     
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  22. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    LOL blast from the past but facts
     
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