Post-match: The Post Presidency :: Trump Faces The Music Thread

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  1. yossarian

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    #5901 yossarian, Mar 30, 2023
    If a statement isn't being used to prove truth of the matter asserted, it's not considered hearsay. But here, TFG's statements in the press, etc., etc., are statements of a party opponent and would be admissible for any reason. Now whether some of these surrogates on the various pundit shows would be considered close enough to be agents of the party opponent is a question (probably easily researchable cases on this, I just don't have the time) but, regardless, their statements could be admissible for a lot of different reasons.
     
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  2. The Jitty Slitter

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    #5902 The Jitty Slitter, Mar 30, 2023
    Thanks Yoss

    Now you mention it I remember you have explained this to me before. I remember it came up on the McStay trial where the killer went on one of those true crime mystery shows before the bodies were found and said "i was definitely the last person he [the victim] saw ..."

    So they played it at his trial. Doh!

    Joyce Vance thinks this could be evidence of consciousness of guilt because Trump always claimed he never made the Stormy payment but if his attorney now admits he did, it might go to the criminal conspiracy
     
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  3. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    #5903 Cascarino's Pizzeria, Mar 30, 2023
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    Someone keep racist grampa off the phone

     
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  4. song219

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    #5904 song219, Mar 30, 2023
    Sad. But senior care is expensive. Weren't we talking about that on another thread?
     
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  5. dapip

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    #5905 dapip, Mar 30, 2023
    Was he playing racist bingo? I think he got all the squares!
     
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  6. Q*bert Jones III

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    #5906 Q*bert Jones III, Mar 30, 2023
    I just don't get how we're supposed to teach children anything when this guy has blown up the idea that if you work hard and learn stuff, you could do anything. We elevated the dumbest person in the country to the presidency. If I was a kid, I would laugh derisively if someone told me to do my homework.
     
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  7. The Jitty Slitter

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    #5907 The Jitty Slitter, Mar 30, 2023
    I guess that only works if you inherit like 1 billion dollars
     
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  8. song219

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    #5908 song219, Mar 30, 2023
    Here is an example of market failure. You'd think if you had a millions of dollars you wouldn't end up with a dumb ass kid.
     
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  9. JamesA

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    #5909 JamesA, Mar 30, 2023
    I know I'm in the minority here, but I genuinely don't think Trump is dumb. It just appears as that because he's a narcissistic sociopath who is also extremely entitled.
     
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  10. usscouse

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    #5910 usscouse, Mar 30, 2023
    Perhaps not Dumb in that sense. But he is Ignorant, of a lot of things.
     
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  11. song219

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    #5911 song219, Mar 30, 2023
    He's not dumb on the grand scale. If he was one of your neighbors no matter where you live, he wouldn't stand out for his dumbness. As for US President he does stand out for his dumbness. If there was a dumber President in the 20th and 21st centuries I'd love to see someone explain him.
     
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  12. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    #5912 Cascarino's Pizzeria, Mar 30, 2023
    Hey hey! It was like only $100M, ummkaay? If he had just stuck it in the S&P 30 yrs ago he'd have 2-3X his wealth.
     
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  13. russ

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    #5913 russ, Mar 30, 2023
    Harding was an idiot.
     
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  14. Pønch

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    #5914 Pønch, Mar 30, 2023
    He for sure is at least inarticulate, with the vocabulary of a middle schooler (at best).
     
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  15. song219

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    #5915 song219, Mar 30, 2023
    He was the only president I thought may have been in the running.
     
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    #5916 rslfanboy, Mar 30, 2023
    Reagan? Dumb with great stage presence.
     
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    #5917 song219, Mar 30, 2023
    You can make the case that Reagan was dumb but dumber than Trump?
     
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    #5918 russ, Mar 30, 2023
    Reagan was intellectually incurious at least and at worst only capable of reading a script (before his dementia started kicking in).
     
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  19. Q*bert Jones III

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    #5919 Q*bert Jones III, Mar 30, 2023
    Read that tweet and tell me he's not dumb. He's dumb. There isn't one person who regularly posts on this forum who is anywhere near that dumb.

    Not even Cascarino.
     
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  20. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    #5920 Cascarino's Pizzeria, Mar 30, 2023
    Duh! Obama is the only answer.
     
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  21. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    #5921 Cascarino's Pizzeria, Mar 30, 2023
    Hey! I resemble that remark!

    Thank Jaysis for Marek. :thumbsup:
     
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  22. xtomx

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    #5922 xtomx, Mar 30, 2023
    I did not think he was genuinely dumb until after he began as president.
    If you actually listen to what he said when discussing the machinations of his job and the work, he really did not understand.
    He fundamentally failed to understand the basics of government, civics, or law.

    Also, he only has a bachelor's degree and apparently did not really do well then.
    He did not write his own book (the greatest book ever written...next to the Bible).
    From people who worked with his companies, he never really understand how his own companies ran.

    By mid-2017, I really thought he was dumb.
     
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  23. celito

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    #5923 celito, Mar 30, 2023
    This guy seemingly had a nice business gig going for him ... then he fuked it all up with his 5 minutes of fame. :ROFLMAO:
     
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  24. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    #5924 Cascarino's Pizzeria, Mar 30, 2023
    There is no bottom, example whatever

     
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  25. ToMhIlL

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    #5925 ToMhIlL, Mar 30, 2023
    Wut? No love for George W. Bush? Until Trump came along, a lot of folks would rate him as Dumb and Dumber, but maybe not Dumbest now. Then again, he did securify our borders aginst terr-ists.
     
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