Breakout Youth Player in MLS/USL 2023 edition

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  1. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

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    I remember he had a few monster games last season.... his ability is legit. If he can up his consistency then he will be a pretty special player.
     
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  2. 50/50 Ball

    50/50 Ball Member+

    Sep 6, 2006
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    I blame some of this on video games. They can't make MLS players as fast in the game because speed is more important in video games than real life. Tajon Buchanan and Alphonso Davies are MLS alums and were.2
    of the fastest guys at the world cup.
     
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  3. Clint Eastwood

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    Dec 23, 2003
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    By the way, the reason that the U20 tournament was pulled from Indonesia is pretty pathetic. The governor of Bali refused to host the Israeli team.

    Why agree to host a tournament like this if you won't host teams due to political reasons?
     
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  4. xbhaskarx

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  5. Reccossu

    Reccossu Member+

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    Birmingham
    Looks like Argentina will host.
     
  6. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Ah...........brings back my favorite Argentina U20 memory.

    That would be the US U20s beating Messi in 2005 on a goal from Chad Barrett. A ridiculously stacked Argentina team also featuring Sergio Aguero, Pablo Zabaleta, Fernando Gago, Neri Cardozo, Lucas Biglia, and other notables.

    The US team had 10 players that would go on to get senior USMNT caps. [Nguyen, Gaven, Kljestan, Feilhaber, Szetela, Adu, Spector, Wynne, Brad Evans, and Barrett. Other pretty good future pros like Hunter Freeman and Michael Harrington.]

    It was the US that won their group consisting of Germany, Argentina, and Egypt.

    Lost a tough game to Italy in the round of 16.

    After losing to the US..............Argentina beat Germany, Colombia, Spain, Brazil, and finally Nigeria to win the title.
     
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  7. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

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    That game was the first time I ever heard of Messi. I remember going into the game people saying he was the best player on Argentina and wondering why he wasn’t starting. And we really were controlling that game until he came on. And he very much shifted things and we were fortunate to hold on.
     
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  8. xbhaskarx

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    Perez, Vargas, Cremaschi, Tsakiris, Buck

     
  9. glutton4Bolts

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    I wonder how long it will take to update each players' transfermarkt profile? I know that Wolff is a 2004 but he still has the November value set at $1 million. Whereas Buck has been updated to the end of March.
     
  10. xbhaskarx

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  11. twoolley

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    Transfermkt fake news.
     
  12. xbhaskarx

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  13. xbhaskarx

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  14. xbhaskarx

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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States
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    USA u21 MLS Minute leaders through week 6

    1.Aidan Morris - 526
    2.Noel Buck - 472
    3.Cade Cowell - 465
    4t. John Tolkin - 450
    4t. John Pulskamp - 450
    6.Cole Bassett - 442
    7.Caleb Wiley - 440
    8.Michael Halliday - 420
    9.Cameron Harper - 413
    10.Owen Wolff - 405
    11. Jalen Neal - 385
    12.Darren Yapi - 382
    13.Chris Brady - 360
    14.Brian Gutierrez - 334
    15.Ted Ku-DiPietro - 292
    16.Tayvon Gray - 285
    17.Nathan Harriel - 283
    18.Jack McGlynn - 255
    19.Jacob Greene - 214
    20.Daniel Edelman - 201
    21.Josh Atencio - 182
    22.Sebastian Berhalter - 147
    23.Abdi Salim - 136
    24.Brooklyn Raines - 132
    25.Jack Panayotou - 124
    26.Miguel Perez - 122
    27.Quinn Sullivan - 115
    28.Matai Akinmboni - 108
    29.Justin Haak - 107
    30.Jackson Hopkins - 103
    31.Peter Stroud - 101
    32.Malik Pinto - 92
    33t. Noah Cobb - 90
    33t. Gavin Beavers - 90
    35.Andres Jasson - 86
    36t. Cameron Dunbar - 76
    36t. Diego Luna - 76
    38.Gabriel Segal - 65
    39t. Damian Rivera - 64
    39t. Ilijah Paul - 64
    41.Esmir Bajraktarevic - 62
    42.Jackson Conway - 56
    43.Obed Vargas - 48
    44.Tyler Wolff - 45
    45.Javier Casas - 42
    46.Tega Ikoba - 38
    47.Ben Cremaschi - 18
    48.Aziel Jackson - 16
    49.Max Arfsten - 15
    50.Kristian Fletcher - 14
    51.Danny Leyva - 11
    52t. Erik Duenes - 9
    52t. Alex Monis - 9
    54.David Ruiz - 8
    55t. Luis Flores - 6
    55t. Jacob Davis - 6
    55t. Ethan Dobbelaere - 6
    58.Kayden Pierre - 4
    59.Sota Kitahara - 3
    60.Bode Davis - 2
    61.Hayden Sargis - 1
     
  15. xbhaskarx

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  16. TrueCrew

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    Test run for 2030 WC?
     
  17. Reccossu

    Reccossu Member+

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    Birmingham
    I'll be keeping an eye on him. Last year, he was just too physically immature (understandable -- he was 16) to make an impact. But he's started out well and seems to have added some strength. And he knows more of what to expect form the physical side of the game.
     
  18. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
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    FC Dallas
    Indeed. He only just turned 17 in February.

    He left the FCD academy trying to recreate the Jonathan Gomez path, but didn't have the immediate success that Jonathan did in the USL. Let's hope this is his year, and he's on the path to Europe at 18 (which was the idea for leaving FCD).

    I have overhyped the kid on these boards in the past. Called him Xavi with the bulldog mentality of Michael Bradley. A tad bit of hyperbole. :) Here's what Buzz said about him in 2020. And yes, FCD has only been able to sign one of these 6 kids. People ask: why does the FCD well seem to have gone dry? Well kids like Matthew Corcoran left.
    A 6-pack of “protect the investment” signings for FC Dallas - 3rd Degree
     
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  19. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
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    FC Dallas
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    Instead they should be trying to replicate the Pepi path. Sign for N Texas, tear it up and then get signed to the full team. Tear it up again and get a big money signing in Europe with a team who is now very invested in you succeeding. Going on a free or very small signing means your are easy to ignore and dump. Doesn't always happen but it's sure a lot easier to forget about cheap signings than expensive ones.
     
  20. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

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    Feb 13, 2010
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    United States
    Always good to see more USL teams with homegrown academy players.... and look at who he's replacing

     
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  21. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
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    FC Dallas
    Shrug. Plenty of guys that sign for FCD don't pan out either. Former USYNTer Thomas Roberts just signed to play for Columbus Crew 2 in MLS Next Pro. He's 21.

    As we know, there are kids whose only goal in life is to go to Europe at 18 to the team of their choice on a free transfer. If that's the case, signing a contract with an MLS club (FCD or otherwise) isn't the right path. It doesn't make sense for the MLS club either.

    Heck, what Jonathan Gomez did made no sense FOR LOUISVILLE. Cuz they signed Gomez to a contract that let him walk away for nearly nothing at 18 years old.

    Its just weird when you make that decision at 15 or so like Corcoran did. Then what do you do between 15 and 18? In his case he's turned his development over to Birmingham United. What track record of development do they have? He turned his development over to Jay Heaps (President/GM) and Tom Soehn (Coach). So yeah, development experts!

    Sometimes that works out. That's what Taylor Booth did. Left RSL really early and then was seemingly in no man's land for a long time waiting until he could move to Europe.
     
  22. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

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    Somerville, MA
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    FC Dallas
    After having to pull the U20WC from Indonesia, FIFA has now decided to pull the U17WC from Peru. Jeeeeesh.
     
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  23. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

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    FC Dallas
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    United States
    I think these are all related. Roberts was on the old path before they had a "minor league" second team. If he was coming through now he wouldn't sign first with FCD. Gomez left right before the wave of young players were sold making his move to Louisville to go to Europe kind of silly but at the time he didn't know. Corcoran was in the wave who were insulted they weren't going to be signed directly to FCD and moved on. NYRB has had the sign with RBNY 2 path for years so their prospects new what was going to happen. FCD made that change and it upset the first kids having to adjust what they were going to have to do but I think it will be fine going forward.
     
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  24. xbhaskarx

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    United States
    McGlynn in CCL

     
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  25. theboogeyman

    theboogeyman Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    He’s what our midfield needs against concacaf bunkers. He was excellent tonight in the second half.
     
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