Dealing with the same institution…they also cut mens soccer. https://www.yourbasin.com/sports/utpb-cuts-mens-soccer-and-cross-country/ Pretty clear administration there is clueless.
The ineligible player is the responsibility of the compliance office. If they told her the player was ineligible and she played her anyway, that’s on her. But it could have been something that was found out after the fact. Jim Boeheim in men’s basketball played a few ineligible players and had about 200 wins taken away because of it. He’s still coaching there. Coaching through the red card requires context. Texting the Asst coaches? Sitting in a tree? Same game or next game? DUI has nothing to do with soccer unless she is required to drive vans. That’s a university/company policy to decide. They’d need to treat her the same as a professor. She sounds like a piece of work and many others would have been given a much shorter leash I’m sure, but it’s Odessa, Texas. Not many people clamoring to go down there. Have to think they got feedback from the current team over the 4 months and that factored into it. Nowadays, if the team likes you, you can break all the rules! LOL.
Can't believe someone didn't see this and post already. Sorority initiation type crap and coach apparently participated. He's also a local public attorney. Shocking this stuff still happens. I have a feeling this will not end well for the coach, who apparently, has not been disciplined or suspended in any way at this point. Utah college soccer player sues after being asked sexual questions in ‘initiation ritual’ https://www.sltrib.com/news/education/2023/03/11/utah-college-soccer-player-sues/
Well, it's behind a pay-wall. That could have something to do with it. But I'm guessing "sorority initiation type crap" about says it all. Although why we still have fraternities and sororities anymore is beyond me...
I can click on that link and the article pops right up. Here's the start of it and it's enough to turn your stomach.... Utah college soccer player sues after being asked sexual questions in ‘initiation ritual’ A former Westminster student and soccer player, Naomi Kehl, is now suing the school for harassment she says she faced on the team and from the coach with a lawsuit filed on Tuesday, March 7, 2023. One by one, each of the new players was called up to the front of the bus as it weaved its way out of Utah toward the first out-of-state match of the season for the women’s soccer team. From the back, Westminster freshman Naomi Kehl watched the “initiation ritual,” worried about when it would be her turn. She hadn’t known about it before the trip. She didn’t want to sit in what the team leaders had dubbed “the hot seat” — a spot directly across the aisle from their male coach — where they’d pulled a light fixture down from the ceiling to shine on the occupant like an interrogation. Over a microphone forced into their hands, freshmen and transfer players were instructed to answer sexually explicit questions while looking at the coach. “How many sexual partners have you had?” “What is your favorite sexual position?” The questions would become increasingly explicit until the player answering had nothing left to say, Kehl said, or broke down crying from embarrassment or anxiety. Kehl recalled the coach joining in with his own follow-ups and laughing throughout. And the understanding was if the new players didn’t take part in the ritual, she said, they’d be shunned by teammates — who were previously made to do it — or worse, some whispered, they might be benched by the coach. “You can’t just say no. This is what’s expected,” Kehl said in an interview with reporters Friday about her experience from April 2021. “And your coach is allowing it to go on.”
"Stomach turning" to say the least. A bit more than Greek stuff as it reportedly involved the head coach. I just hope parents and SA's do their research.
well that is a whole lot of nothing. Former players with an axe to grind. These will keep coming across the country with the way kids are these days.
Wow. There are quite a few schools, coaches, and complaints in that USA Today article so take your pick I guess. To me it does raise some interesting questions - -fair to assume, it's been worse, standards were much lower and players less protected then in the past. Lots more hazing for example, in past generations, both genders. Coach Boone would be fired immediately today, "water is for wimps". But, is there a trend toward more or less abusive behavior? Are the standards really much higher for coaches? Are they high enough? -are players really much more sensitive to aggressive or abusive behavior and also more willing to report that behavior? Maybe they're just more educated and aware about their own mental health? and about identifying borderline behaviors? -there are examples of invalid or false claims of abuse but isn't that pretty rare? Abusive or harassing behaviors are still much more under-reported than over-reported?
majority of the athletes sided with the coach. This is just more petty complaining. Nothing in the article demonstrated any actual abuse
You, sir or ma'am, are out of touch. The "way kids are these days"? Haha. You literally have no idea. Our girl has had some really GREAT coaches and some absolute dumpster fires. Sometimes you know a dumpster fire when you see one, other times you learn the hard way. You do not have to demean, belittle or humiliate young people to coach them. You also don't have to be their best friend. But if you think you have to humiliate them to "make them better", it's time to hang up your cleats.
But while you are at it... please provide your definition of abuse. What is abuse in coaching? Go ahead and skip the "physical abuse" or "sexual abuse" because those are pretty clear-cut.
I would say there is a big difference between demeaning and abusing someone. Even so, as the article points out the majority of the athletes say these reports are untrue, so most likely some kids with an axe to grind.
No, demeaning someone is abusing someone. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and believe you meant that there is a difference between providing constructive feedback and demeaning someone, there's a big difference there. Here's an example of Constructive Feedback: "Amy, you've done so well at putting in the work in the weight room and adding that muscle! But I think it's slowed you down, so let's work on your agility and speed." Here's an example of demeaning: "You've gotten big since you got here. And way too slow. You won't ever play here." Cool. You haven't watched others protect themselves for fear of retaliation? Story time. ECNL Club Director pulls 16 yo female off the field and begins screaming at it. No cussing (Brit coaches rarely need to cuss and can still be extremely crass) but he unloaded on her. She literally pissed herself on the sideline, during a game, as this man (nearly a foot taller than her and probably 100 pounds more) threw a tantrum. She stood there and took it. Her teammates kept their heads down (my kid included). Her HC, nor any of the coaches on the sideline did. Why did grown-arse adults not intervene? Because the ED fired anyone who countered him. Guess what the ED told everyone when she quit? "It did not happen." "She lied." "Her parents have an axe to grind." Prime gaslighting. Young women rarely will standup for themselves when they are not in a position of power. It's not surprising that other student-athletes don't want to associate with it. It only hurts them.
You have told me I’m “out of touch” and have “no idea” and I find that offensive and demeaning. I’m going to go cry about it to the media.
If even one player that I coached ever came forward to me or my administration, and said that I had caused them emotional or physical trauma, I would do some serious self-reflection on how I treat my team. Your flippant attitude indicates, at least to me, you may have a blind spot with regard to your own behavior.
I agree with you that that you should reflect on what an athlete says as a coach. The article to me does not shed any light on anything except for some players who didn’t like the way someone coached.
You’re a jerk of a coach and likely the kind of coach the article is talking about. Think you can behave and say anything you want to get your message across. Thinking that yelling, demeaning or being verbally abusive to players is how you get them to perform better. Any clue that jerk coaches are often selective about their mistreatment of players? They can target certain players while treating others perfectly fine. We aren’t talking about sexual abuse here but when you do have a coach that has been sexually inappropriate with a player they aren’t doing it to the whole team and most don’t even know it is happening. You will often hear “Oh, he was a great coach, I never saw any of that”. Meanwhile the coach is meeting up with a 14 year old and having sex with her in the parking lot after hours. So tired of female athletes being trashed if they speak up about bad treatment- how about once, athletes are believed that something wasn’t right and quit accusing them of being weak, whining or any other derogatory name calling. Do you have any idea how scary and difficult it is for an female athlete to speak up about something like this? It usually doesn’t benefit the athlete and ends up with only negative repercussions for their athletic career.
Folks that get personal and emotional on here just lose credibility immediately. These are serious and sensitive issues for sure but let's all try to keep the dialogue as respectful as possible. Even when folks might really piss you off. Anyone read about the Harvard women's ice hockey coach? The Athletic did a long story. Another "old school" coach that has apparently not evolved with changing and increasing standards of behavior. Go look it up. "Naked Skate" is all you need to know....
https://theathletic.com/4288145/2023/03/10/harvard-womens-hockey-mistreatment-hazing-katey-stone/ Harvard W. Hockey coach resigns. Well past due on this from the reports.