US women soccer players want equal pay to US men's team.

Once again you display your ignorance is essentially all things you comment on. Here we have an empowered women using her assets to the best of her ability. That's very feminist.

 

The money FIFA earned from this last WC was enabled by de facto slave labor and thousands of corpses. Surely the righteous fans did not watch a single game and surely the various FAs and women's teams will refuse any FIFA money generated by Qatar 2022. They certainly would not want to benefit from such an atrocity. This is essentially blood money.

 

Commentary after the NCAA women's basketball final. Any truth to it, or is she focusing solely on one game/tournament?

So glad we never have to hear “no one watches women’s sports” ever again. ♥️ pic.twitter.com/GGpGgg2SjJ

— Joy Taylor (@JoyTaylorTalks) April 3, 2023

 

Who played and who won?

 

The refs won!

 

The one thing I've noticed is that since ESPN doesn't own the TV rights to the Men's tournament, they have been pushing hard to promote the Women's tournament. When I go to check the scores in March Madness, I notice that they often list the Women's scores before the Men's.

That's completely fine. The people who should be annoyed at ESPN are the fans of other sports beyond football, basketball, and baseball, which usually get little promotion from ESPN in the first place.

To cite one example, I'm pretty indifferent to hockey, but my impression is that NHL fans hate ESPN due to the lack of promotion.

 

Mouse ears are trying to pump up that ESG!

 

I don't see anyone posting the numbers, but the NCAA women's hoops tournament did indeed do extraordinarily well this year.

And that's great. It's perfectly valid to poke holes in the USWNT's losing legal case and still support women's sports' growth.

 

Rapinoe to retire at end of NWSL season

 

NCAAW > NCAAM tournament this year. Wasn't even close

 

storylines, fun I had watching the games

LSU vs Iowa needs to be played next year. Appt tv

 

Nope. Wasn't even close.

Men's title game had 14.7MM viewers.

Women's title game had 9.9MM.

To top that off, It was the worst rating ever for the men's title game and the best ever for the women's. Shows just how far apart the two have been.





Now, obviously the trend for the Men's game is down. We'll see if the Women's increase is a blip or something sustained.

Part of (a big part) was the Women were on network (ABC) for the first time since that first data point in the chart in 1995 (CBS). All the intervening years were ESPN only. Findability for passers by increased for sure.

Secondarily the women had the star appeal of Caitlin Clark (and helps that she's white, sadly) which the men lack with one-and-done. If the women's game truly takes off and the WNBA salaries become worth jumping for they could lose that, though with NIL the threat is diminished.

Anyway, NCAAM>>>>>>NCAAW, still and likely forever.

 

Dude, wrong metric.

 

I'm just talking about the storylines and stuff, I enjoyed the NCAAW way more this year

 

Does anyone know the cut of the Womens World Cup that the USMNT will get?

 

Assuming there is truly a 50/50 split, it will likely depend on how much the women win which will be added to the entire pie between the two tournaments and split in half.

 

I just hope the women lose. I have a good feeling that they will. The Europeans are taking women’s soccer much more seriously, and they have a lot more knowledge about the game to tap into.

 

Why? Why would you do that?

 

Because they basically extorted the men’s side for money they didn’t deserve. If the men hadn’t played along, they’d have been crucified by the media. As a result, there’s now less money for youth programs and coaching on the men’s side. In the past, I never paid close attention to the women, but always hoped they won. But this group is absolutely vile. Maybe I’ll pull for them again in the future, but not this group.

 

Because they are arrogant disingenuous liars?

 

US Women's National Team star Megan Rapinoe says US has ‘weaponized’ women’s sports against trans people and is ‘trying to legislate away people’s full humanity’ https://t.co/7OZOGkJWK9

— CNN (@CNN) July 10, 2023

 

Seems that Martina Navratilova disagrees.

 

But if they win, won't there be more money for the things you're claiming are now going to be underfunded?

I get your overall point...I don't like the self centeredness of the vocal leaders for more money, because they're so obviously making disingenuous or even false arguments over and over again. Further, they SAY it's about women's soccer players as a whole but those of us who know the details know it's about that specific group of players. And reporters who accurately report like this are few and far between.

Maybe because I follow so much politics, I'm less offended by their actions. I see more, bigger, worse lies in political reporting, and more situations where reporters act as stenographers about things that REALLY matter, like COVID or climate change. I just can't get as worked up about it as you guys, because I already take their statements as a union trying to win at collective bargaining. For me, painting up a picture of a FIGHT FOR JUSTICE when the agenda is normal and sordid ($$$$) over something as trivial in the world as the compensation for one group of millionaires over another is completely expected. They aren't acting as officers of the court or whatever where they have an obligation not to bullshit. They're political advocates, and that's how political advocates behave.

Maybe another way to put it is that in my opinion, sports journalism is more accurate than political journalism. If the Carolina Panthers suck, we all know they suck because we can see their won-loss record, so if a reporter writes that they suck, nobody is going to argue.

There are two possibilities now in US politics. (Let's not argue which is right, let's just acknowledge these are the two possibilities. Either Donald Trump is being victimized by a soft conspiracy of insiders attacking an outsider, or, he's the most corrupt and criminal politician in modern American politics. If a reporter doing straight news (i.e., not Fox or MSNBC nighttime shows) looks at the facts and makes an independent, objective decision about which of the two narratives is correct, if she reports out such a story in the LA Times or on ABC News, she's going to be attacked because political reporting can't look at the standings and see that the Panthers are 3-10. In contemporary America, everyone knows that the MSM doesn't value truth, they value access and clicks.

Maybe another way to put it is that if you're looking at the reporting on the pay dispute as sports journalism, you're going to be pissed off because political reporting has lower standards than sports reporting, and you expect better.

I have always seen this as a political story and so I accept shitty reporting/stenography as completely expected.

 

There's not too much to really disagree with here, but this:

is...woof. Dave, there are myriad possibilities in US politics, but the "stenographers" as you style them, present us with the two you mention. You're behaving as the stenographers prefer.