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Discussion in 'Real Madrid' started by Phoenix Rising, Sep 3, 2015.

  1. Forcamadrid2

    Forcamadrid2 Member

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Dec 13, 2017
    to count as spanish you don't need spanish citizenship. Only to have trained at least 3 years in a spanish club before age of 21. I think even VJ and Rodrygo may count.
     
  2. fierro

    fierro Member+

    Jan 30, 2007
    El Chuco
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe someone can provide some clarification on the home player rule.

    Vinicius for example may not qualify as home grown because he started his contract on or after his 18th birthday and therefore would not complete the minimum 3 years training prior to his 21st birthday. Is there any consideration given as to when actual "training" begins, i.e.: if the player has to wait until pre-season training camp?.

    If that is the case this (one day) could be a major oversight on the club's part if Vin, Hendrick, etc., will not be eligible to qualify for designation as homegrown players. Being able to register them as homegrown would help mitigate the cost and risk involved and I think that would at least be part of the reasoning behind the club's interest in a "policy" of "recruiting" 16 year old boys.
     
  3. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--

     
  4. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Why

    just why
     
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  5. MaxY

    MaxY Member+

    May 24, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Pochettino seems like a middle ground option. It wouldn't be the worst thing but also probably nobody's preference. Pretty underwhelming especially if it's another quiet summer.
    I just don't want Raul. Xabi Alonso, Nagelsmann, Zidane, Pochettino all have their advantages and disadvantages.
     
  6. AppleBob86

    AppleBob86 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Jan 11, 2018
    Hahah. Prepare for another run of round of 16 KO’s
     
  7. fierro

    fierro Member+

    Jan 30, 2007
    El Chuco
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    So he's like Carlo but without the GOAT resume. The perfect middle ground. I mean if your manager fails to win a title this season, then obviously pick a manager who has never won a title.
     
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  8. AppleBob86

    AppleBob86 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Jan 11, 2018
    Poch couldn’t win anything significant with a “super team”

    I laugh if we end up replacing Carlo with him.
     
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  9. RMSocrates

    RMSocrates Member+

    Apr 5, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Damn if this actually happens, not looking forward to it. SMH
     
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  10. Ahmadi8

    Ahmadi8 Member+

    Apr 14, 2005
    Bahrain
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Bahrain
    Perfect candidate for management if they have no plans to make significant additions the upcoming transfer period.

    Easy to sack if he completely messes up.
     
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  11. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    Don’t disagree. Zidane is the best candidate but he left not on good terms with JAS. Xabi would be second option, I don’t think age is a consideration for him as he’s already been at the club and knows how it works. Nagelsmann is too young potentially and needs a rebound job, Raul is not capable. Pochettino may come out as the default unless Klopp presents himself as an option, which I’m not a fan of.
     
  12. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    What nobody wants to admit. We're being badly ran on the sporting side of things.

    Pooch should literally never be mentioned when speaking for Real Madrid manager. The only good thing that will come out of this is Florentino begging Zidane back publicly by this time next year.
     
  13. MaxY

    MaxY Member+

    May 24, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Carlo might want to coach Brazil rather than go another season if offered with no reinforcements.
    Nobody is saying that Poch is an upgrade to Carlo but somebody needs to take the fall when things don't go well and it won't be the president.
     
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  14. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    That super team has gone through so many coaches by now we can safely assume the coaching is probably not the only reason why they're losing.
     
  15. AppleBob86

    AppleBob86 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Jan 11, 2018
    People on here wouldn’t be arsed for Carlo to get the sack and appoint someone like Xabi, who’s only been in top flight for the last 6-7 months.

    Xabi sits at the table of Poch right. Won nothing significant.

    Crazy.
     
  16. Ahmadi8

    Ahmadi8 Member+

    Apr 14, 2005
    Bahrain
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Bahrain
    I doubt Perez fires him even if he goes trophyless. However he might actually leave for the Brazil job.

    Who do you suggest would be good options to consider?
     
  17. fierro

    fierro Member+

    Jan 30, 2007
    El Chuco
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Raul has to be top of the list. You can't be on here advocating for promoting Castilla products to the first team and NOT be on board with promoting their head coach.


    If the idea is that Alvaro Rodri, Arribas and Vinicius Tobias need to move up to the first tram and Carlo needs to be replaced for failing to do this specifically, then the writing is on the wall and RAUL Madrid it is!!
     
  18. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    That’s probably the worst reasoning to hire a coach.
     
  19. fierro

    fierro Member+

    Jan 30, 2007
    El Chuco
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So not using Castilla products and failing to win La Liga is a good reason to consider for firing a coach but managing to compete and earn promotion from the 3rd division to the 2nd division with the same Castilla players is not a good reason to consider for hiring the coaching replacement.

    Is this some sort of bizarro world where coaches with almost no relationship to the club in a front office or coaching role who have never achieved any similar career accomplishments akin to promotion or qualification to a superior level of competition are given preferential consideration over a product of the Castilla who won all there is to win with the club became Captain and came back to do it all over again as manager.
     
  20. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    Not using Castilla players is not a reason to fire any coach (who even said that) and hiring a coach should be on merit. Raul has done nothing to earn that, and that sentiment is echoed in the club it seems.
     
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  21. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    The replacements lined up barely offer anything better than Carlo.
     
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  22. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
     
  23. RMadrid2222

    RMadrid2222 Member

    Real Madrid
    Mexico
    Feb 1, 2023
    Why must everything be news? Like, obviously if there are players who are uncertain about their future they might not be in the greatest state of mind, especially when they botched la liga.
     
  24. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    The reason this is news is Dragging contract negotiations has a bad impact on team chemistry and don’t forget we’re still competing for UCL.
     
  25. fierro

    fierro Member+

    Jan 30, 2007
    El Chuco
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Everyday that goes by without putting pen to paper Vinicius moves closer to the exit door.

    People expect patience and stability for youth team player but the club cant even guarantee a bona-fide star like Vinicius a little reassurance regarding who will be the manager in a month or a year. Carlo is simply not afforded the time to spend transitioning youth into first team players, no coach will be given that and Vinny Jr. has to be considering if he wants to have to prove himself to a new coach year after year while having the the club President getting giddy over flirty text messages some French dude periodically sends him.
     
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