Racism - Always and Forever

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  1. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    This is a Wendys, sir. And nobody today defends Wilson.

    You have to ask why a super flawed pro-colonialism piece was allowed to be published in a reputable journal to begin with.
     
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  2. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
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    Because Princeton-
    which is also home to noted ethicist and piece of shit Peter Singer,who thinks disabled people should be euthanized.
    Sorry,pizza bro.I got huge issues with Princeton.

    Don't mind me lol..
     
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  3. marek

    marek Member+

    Lechia Gdańsk
    Jun 27, 2000
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    what’s wrong with that?
    Something wrong with manual labor?

    if they work hard, then in time, they or their children will run their own business and hire more people and they will be the managers overseeing their employees doing the manual work…
     
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  4. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    That's OK. I just wasn't following the colonial connection.
     
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  5. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    And if they piss off a Karen for not cleaning or pruning the bushes properly, they'll be squealed on and potentially deported.

    You're legal at this point, right? No Melania shenanigans?
     
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  6. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
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    I don't think that picture is disrespecting manual labor any more than the Grant Wood painting that it's based on is disrespecting farmers.

    [​IMG]
     
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  7. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
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    Is this invasion committed by a nation that is 100 years or more ahead of us on the technology curve? If aliens invaded us and took over the government but gave us a cure for cancer and flying cars, how would you feel about it?

    Im not saying colonialism was good; for one thing, that’s a question of philosophy not of history. I am saying this isn’t like Russia invading Ukraine. Like, Kenyans may have hated the British, but they liked the trains and the roads.
     
  8. marek

    marek Member+

    Lechia Gdańsk
    Jun 27, 2000
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    not here, all legal eagle am I

    so just because they might run into an asshole, they shouldn’t work hard and make a life for themselves?

    and why do you assume they’re illegal?
    prejudiced much?
     
  9. marek

    marek Member+

    Lechia Gdańsk
    Jun 27, 2000
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    agree

    so, why would someone post it in a Racism Always and Forever thread?
     
  10. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
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    Chelsea FC
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    I can't speak for the US but, as I say, over here there's no political education to speak of anyway. You only really start to learn that stuff later on if you're interested and most people don't seem to be.
     
  11. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
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    Ironically,many people today view this painting as a satirical criticism although Wood did not intend it that way.
     
  12. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
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    You've officially become a parody.
     
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  13. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
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    But that's the same argument that led to the enclosure acts... that the poor were lazy and inefficient and needed the guiding hand of capitalism to 'help them'...



    Fact is that they weren't introduced to help people. They were done to make people already rich, richer. Colonialism, empire and it's more modern counterparts, (like Americas 'spreading freedumb and democracy'), are all part of the same thing.

    Without going all 'Citizen Smith' on yer, these are essentially just extensions of class struggle.
     
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  14. Auriaprottu

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    Apr 1, 2002
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    B-b-but Bwana gave us electricity! It's worth letting him ******** my daughter if I can read my Bible in the evening
     
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  15. marek

    marek Member+

    Lechia Gdańsk
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  16. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
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    Those same people though Wood was joking when he said (as he did repeatedly) that he liked living in the midwest.
     
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  17. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    Ya mean like the Comanche liked the whiskey and the rifles?
     
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  18. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    <Sigh>

    OK SD - what if aliens gave you that nice stuff but also anally raped you & your family with their long, glowing fingers several times daily just for jollies? Is the "progress" worth it? You're familiar with the treatment of the Mau Maus or the indifference to famines in Ireland & on the Indian subcontinent, right? I think Churchill blamed the 1943 famine in Bengal on Indians "breeding like rabbits"
     
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  19. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
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  20. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
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    Of course Britain didn't do any relief in Bengal even though India was exporting grain at the time.
     
  21. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    Much like the Irish in the 1840's...
     
  22. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
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    You’re comparing trans to whisky?
    Everyone who is married to someone from an African nation colonized by the British, raise your hands. Everyone else, respect the fact that I know what I’m talking about and you don’t.

    Like, did you know that the Mau Mau were primarily Kikuyu? I’ve talked to my mother in law about what it was like. She was there. You were not.
     
  23. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
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    Chelsea FC
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    England
    It's a bit more complicated than that and then there's the issue of the expected Japanese invasion of Bengal and British military attempts to deny them food and other supplies, (the so-called 'scorched earth' policy), as a result.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal_famine_of_1943

    But I think this all comes back to the issue I mentioned before... that of policies being followed that prioritise the interests of some groups over others.
     
  24. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
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    Sure, some folks will do anything for a few amenities. Nothing you're saying suggests proof that the bulk of colonized people were cool with colonization.

    And you need to ask men. Women are far too concerned with safety and living. That's why you so often read people saying that if women ruled the world, there would be no war.
     
  25. marek

    marek Member+

    Lechia Gdańsk
    Jun 27, 2000
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    Poland
    you must not get out much

     

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