Time for a new "Yet Another Mass Shooting Thread"

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  1. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

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    Apr 1, 2002
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    All I can say is, I'm glad she got caught in the net.
     
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  2. Auriaprottu

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    Apr 1, 2002
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    Absolutely. The left and right are not the same at all.
     
  3. Auriaprottu

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    No, he homeschools, so his problem will be that his daughter turns out as stupid as the day is long.

    I guess I've been out of the loop for so long that I didn't even realize that wealthy Whites were this stupid. Black Adventists and PWT, sure. But garden-variety upper class White folks? Why not just enroll them at a... oh, yeah... lol
     
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  4. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Jul 23, 2004
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    It's so perfect because industry people, especially at the Verge, predicted that Elonz would end up rediscovering all the problems of content moderation that twitter 1.0 already had to confront - but of course because Musk is a red pilled clown, he deals with them in even stupider ways.

    Maybe Taibbi will have to do a new twitter files on this overreach!
     
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  5. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Jul 23, 2004
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    It's kind of revealing that this is what Musk chooses to censor given all the other nazi crap he allows
     
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  6. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

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    https://www.aclu.org/issues/national-security/grounded-life-no-fly-list


    https://theintercept.com/2021/05/30/no-fly-list-terrorism-watchlist/


    I guess that the good news is that the number of US citizens on the list is small.

    https://www.newsweek.com/us-capitol-rioters-no-fly-list-travel-ban-fbi-tsa-airlines-1561107
     
  7. Sounders78

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    Agreed.

    There's also another aspect of the shooting situation that I'm guessing hasn't been addressed at all (I haven't been in the US since this happened and am not following it too closely, so I could easily be wrong).

    IF
    the killer was trans and IF the motivation was revenge (and let's be clear the discussed flyer that used the word "vengeance" was NOT AT ALL associated with this based on current evidence), THEN why this particular target?

    Was it because the killer actually attended that school and the teachings/teachers/policies, etc inflicted serious emotional and mental harm on the killer because of how oppressive it must have been?

    Simply put, you can't go around constantly denigrating and dehumanizing someone and expect them not to be affected by it and inevitably become very resentful.

    Would this justify murdering people? Of course not, but IF that was the case, THEN it was an entirely preventable situation. Essentially, these Bible-bashers want to be able to dehumanize LGBT+ people and not have any consequences in their own lives for doing so.

    IF this scenario is accurate, THEN all these new anti-LGBT+ laws being passed could easily have triggered that killer.

    I wish I kept an old comic strip I once saw. In the first panel Person #1 was repeatedly hitting Person #2 over the head with a Bible. In the next panel Person #2 said "would you please stop doing that". In the final panel Person #1 yelled "Stop persecuting me!" That comic sums up the history of conservative Christian & LGBT+ interactions.
     
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  8. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    We have the “Loud Family” behind us. The kids don’t talk they scream at each other and the home schooling mother yells at people on her phone. She also does child care and schools them. Nice days she holds class in the yard. Mrs Scouse was fascinated one day listening to her lesson on Columbus and how the “Flat Earth” made it possible to find America.

    One call came in last year, one women was pulling her kid out. Mrs Scouse could hear her yelling at the mother. “I have a masters, I know what I’m teaching.” Didn’t hear the other half of the call but it didn’t go well.
     
  9. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Early indications are that shooter was in a bigly Christian family, was unsure about her gender identity and being in such a family made it even more difficult since Maw & Paw were never going to be accepting. Neither was her biased, un-Christian religious community. Was getting some kind of mental health & possibly meds for it. But I can't imagine the rejection by parents for trying to be who you are. Can't justify the massacre. But it may be more understandable than some of them.

    And as always, weapons of war in civilian hands.
     
  10. Auriaprottu

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    If she has a Masters, either it isn't in education, or she knows what she's teaching is total bullshit.

    I suppose she could have a Masters from some Christian Identity place, but it ain't likely.
     
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  11. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    Our thoughts also.
     
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  12. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Don't look away. This is what 1st responders & ER personnel see all too often. I think an Aussie doc on Twitter said in 20+ years in an Aussie ER he had never seen a child bleeding out and/or mangled from a gunshot.

    1641096391345709057 is not a valid tweet id
     
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  13. derek750

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    [​IMG]
     
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  14. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    People have pointed out that we need mass civil disobedience to stop this. Like weve seen in France & Israel. PBS had a great one last nite about the antiwar movement & how it stopped Nixon from Vietnam esclation or possibly even nuking North Vietnam. Dicky circled buses around the WH and called in troops to DC (not Guard) in the fall of 1969.

    Key part to make it more "palatable" to the pro-war hardhats & Middle 'Merica was not to encourage just students but everyone from babies on up to grandparents to march. Also Life did a magazine spread of just one week of KIA soldiers & Marines and that was very effective. You need an all out full court press.

    https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/movement-and-madman-teaser/
     
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  15. Auriaprottu

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    Do I learn to love being consistently right? Or do I learn to hate the people who make me consistently right?

    I've been so right for so long, I'm wondering if I'll ever be wrong again.
     
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  16. Auriaprottu

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    Civil disobedience was a thing back in the days when Dr. King advocated it over a more manly dying with your hands on a White throat.

    Today? I don't know if it would even be tolerated. The global media that responded by publicizing attacks on Black people may or may not do the same for White people who happen to be transgender.
     
  17. xtomx

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    We definitely agree on that!
     
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  18. xtomx

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    That was my very first thought, as well.
     
  19. soccernutter

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    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
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    TIL

    As long as you understood gun rights were not restricted...

    I'm always cautious about believing the police, but listen to the clip in I posted last night. Chief covers a lot info in a short amount of time, but doesn't go as far as providing a motive. He does say, though, that the shooter had some mental issues. And as we have seen from several prior shootings, that fits.

    And according to this, it seems to be even more:

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/29/us/covenant-school-shooting-nashville-tennessee-wednesday/index.html

    Potential learning disability? Maybe, but certainly Aiden (now going to use that name as it was posted on his social media account) did have mental health issues.

    The more this story unfolds, the more it appears that a red flag law might have been of use. But I only say "might," as we have seen in the past that those laws, even when enacted, don't prevent mass shootings.
     
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  20. Auriaprottu

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    pour some water on it, mop it, wring the mop into a jar and then use it to sustain the tree of liberty!
     
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  21. celito

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    Feb 28, 2005
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    One could definitely speculate that this is the case here in terms of motive. But as you said, resentment just doesn't justify murder. That person is 100% fully responsible for their own actions. And while we can logically draw a line from the motive to the action, it's incomprehensible for a person to target children.
     
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  22. Auriaprottu

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    Like I said, we aren't going to have access to the actual manifesto. They can say he wrote anything they want to say he wrote.

    If (y'all please read that word, If. I don't need a shitload of dissent) killing children was his getback for being mistreated at the school, that's a problem. Nobody has to cater to that mofo. But we can help make his vengeance less painful with a reduction in the kind of weapons he can get his hands on.
     
  23. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Well doing nothing has been super successful in 'Merica. Make assault weapon ownership embarrasing like smoking or being a Queen or Trump fan.
     
  24. Auriaprottu

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    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
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    They don't have any reason to prohbit them.

    Look at it this way. Sandy Hook was a public school. These latest kids were private Christian school White kids. The best kids. The kids America needs more of. If they don't want to protect their own spawn, they sure as shit won't protect anyone else's.

    Also... Trump fans are celebrated here, like Queen fans outghta be
     
  25. russ

    russ Member+

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    Maybe she was saying" I have a Master."Hard for people to enunciate when they're screaming.
     

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