U20 World Cup 2023

Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by HomietheClown, Mar 29, 2023.

  1. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    This article mentions that Argentina has expressed interest. Though CONMEBOL is hosting the U-17 World Cup later this year. Indonesia Stripped of Hosting Under-20 World Cup by FIFA (usnews.com).

    It also hints at Indonesia being kicked out of WC 2026 qualifiers, granted that just saves them further embarrassment on the field since their team is beyond garbage.
     
  2. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    I'd be cool with it if Argentina hosted as long as they are not allowed to play.

    Would be silly to let them through the back door like that.
     
  3. Every Four Years

    May 16, 2015
    Miramar, Florida
    Nat'l Team:
    India
    But keeping Indonesia's automatic qualification to a tournament that they were unable to host would be even more silly and unfair.
     
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  4. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    I'm pretty sure they'd be expecting an invite if they hosted. (I assume Indonesia won't be allowed to compete anymore so that leaves a spot open).
     
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  5. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Indonesia should be banned from the 20206WCQ.
     
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  6. bigsoccertst1

    bigsoccertst1 Member+

    United States
    Sep 22, 2017
    How about this?
    - Keep u20 Men's WC within AFC territory.
    - Let the best 5th AFC team advance to u20 Men's WC. No time for playoff.
    - FIFA avoids penalties for breaking TV contracts, keeping same time zones.
    - Let IDN know that RUS will return to world competitions, before IDN does.
    - Do all this, while letting Conmebol spout all that jazz about being capable of organizing a world tournament with a 53-day notice.
     
  7. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They are?

    The Peruvian press has run rampant in the last couple weeks with reports that Peru had been stripped of hosting rights... admittedly, I haven't dug enough to make a determination on if it's substantiated or tabloid fear-mongering.
     
  8. pipinogol

    pipinogol Member+

    May 20, 2016
    Club:
    Cary RailHawks U23
    You kill the interest in the competition if you don't allow the host country to field a team. Especially for a "fringe" competition like an U20 WC.
     
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  9. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    That may be true but Paraguay and Ecuador deserve to be ahead of them based on qualifiers.
     
  10. pipinogol

    pipinogol Member+

    May 20, 2016
    Club:
    Cary RailHawks U23
    IF it's confirmed, it'll be a success with most games having big attendances, I have no doubts. And you'll be sooo salty :ROFLMAO:
     
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  11. pipinogol

    pipinogol Member+

    May 20, 2016
    Club:
    Cary RailHawks U23
    Indonesia didn't even make the top 8 of the asian U20 tournament. Can't see why there should be a different criteria now.
     
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  12. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Of course you cannot see why.
    But others do.
     
  13. pipinogol

    pipinogol Member+

    May 20, 2016
    Club:
    Cary RailHawks U23
    Why should FIFA adopt a different qualification criteria than the one already in place? Enlight me.
     
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  14. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    The circumstances are a bit different no? Stepping in as a last second host is not the same as being awarded a bid years in advance.

    The enlightenment is easy and simple for many to understand. It is not fair for teams like Paraguay or Ecuador who (based on merit) deserve to go ahead of Argentina. Argentina would go because they can host and just because there are riots in the streets of another country. It just seems a bit weird to me and I am sure I am not alone.

    Indonesia were promised this tournament waaaaaaaay before qualifying. They were suppose to host it in 2021, then covid hit.
     
  15. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    But apparently Argentina got their way.

    It is being reported they will host.
     
  16. pipinogol

    pipinogol Member+

    May 20, 2016
    Club:
    Cary RailHawks U23
    So the reason is because it's "weird" to you. Ok.

    Argentina would participate because FIFA awards an automatic place to the host nation in each and every national team competition they organize. It has never been a place based on sport merit.
    And it's not the first time they have moved the venue of a youth tournament yet they have always kept this criteria even in such circumstances.
     
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  17. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Yes, weird for a team to be backdoored when a team like Paraguay deserves it more.
    Argentinos should rejoice that politics/religious controversies helped them.
     
  18. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    As for the tournament itself the teams better bring their long sleeve shirts. Some venues may be very, very cold compared to what they were expecting in Indonesia.
     
  19. pipinogol

    pipinogol Member+

    May 20, 2016
    Club:
    Cary RailHawks U23
    2019 FIFA u17 world cup: Peru was the original host and they finished higher than Brazil at the south american U17 championship yet Brazil ended up hosting and therefore qualifying as host instead.

    The issue here is that you seem to think the host quota is awarded to a confederation: it's not, it's awarded directly to an individual nation. There is no reason to give it to Paraguay more than to give it to.... Vanuatu.
     
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  20. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    I did not agree with that decision either. I think it should be taken into consideration the way things occurred within the competition of a sport, because it is a sport... .. but I do understand FIFA is going to FIFA.
    And it makes it clean cut for them Group wise.
     
  21. pipinogol

    pipinogol Member+

    May 20, 2016
    Club:
    Cary RailHawks U23
    Buddy, every sport's international federation does the same. Be it Basketball, Volleyball, Handball, Hockey, Water Polo, Baseball, whatever you want... the host ALWAYS has a team in the competition regardless of sport merit. It's an absolutely standarized procedure. It's commercial suicide to not do it unless we're talking about a "too big to fail" event like the senior world cup.
     
  22. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    In this case they could have awarded it to a team already qualified and played with a Group of three which has happened in the past in some tournaments.
    Or awarded it to a Country that is like China that still would have had people go. They are never in World Cups and are usually in the top 5 of tickets sold.
    But whatever. Congrats to Argentinos sincerely.
     
  23. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Very cold compared to Indonesia is also known as "ideal". We are talking temps well into the 50s. It'll be fine. (remember the tournament kicks off fairly early - 20 May).
     
  24. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Fans of teams that make deep runs in the tournament better hope there's not too many night games. There's a chance it can feel like freezing.
     

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