Racism - Always and Forever

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  1. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    Peter Tosh wrote this over 50 years ago so you can say 450 years.
     
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  2. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
  3. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Hold on - wasn't he great in that unwatchable Moneyball? :p
     
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  4. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    Is the Wildcats or Eagles or Lumberjacks too PC for these schools, like wtf?

    Btw, is Coachella HS still the Arabs?
     
  5. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    When my sister went to Whitman they were the Missionaries and their principal cheer was "beat them with your Bible!"

    There was a high school somewhere in the Northwest called Fletcher. They were the Christians. I played against a school called Moriah; I thought they should have been the Winds.

    Mineville New York was a donut of settlement around an ever-expanding open pit garnet mine. The visitor's locker room featured a panic barred door that used to go to the football field, but now hung about 70 feet in the air, even the stoop having fallen into the chasm.

    We decided they should have been the Pits.

    Should Pattee Mo, be the Cakes?
     
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  6. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don’t get Moriah Winds
     
  7. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    "They Call the Wind Mariah" was the big song from "Paint Your Wagon." I think the hit was the Kingston Trio...
     
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  8. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    Is Adams Colorado The Fam-a-lee? Is Casper Wyoming the Friendly Ghosts? Is Big Bear California the Big Yogis?

    South Florida made the women's tournament; they are the Bulls on the men's side. Were the women the Lady Bulls? The Heifers perhaps?
     
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  9. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Show us a team photo. We can give them a name based off that. I'm sure they don't want to be called the Cows.
     
  10. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Moo Moo Buckaroo!!!
    :geek:
     
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  11. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Inside the article is something more disturbing tho

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    Chalked sidewalk at University of Alabama, January 26, 2023

    Since October 2022, ADL has documented at least 30 antisemitic incidents that directly reference Ye – the influential artist, producer, and fashion designer formerly known as Kanye West, whose 2022 antisemitic outbursts made headlines. These incidents, which include vandalism, banner drops, targeted harassment, and campus propaganda distributions, demonstrate the ongoing influence of Ye’s conspiratorial, bigoted rants.

    Immediately following Ye’s antisemitic comments, which included inflammatory tropes about Jewish power and Holocaust denial, the slogan “Ye is Right” surfaced online in hashtags and antisemitic accounts. The ADL Center on Extremism has also tracked references to “Ye is Right” in instances of on-the-ground antisemitic vandalism and harassment nationwide.


    https://www.adl.org/resources/blog/ye-right-antisemitic-campaign-continues
     
  12. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
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  13. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
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  14. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
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  15. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Restoration of the natural order as established by God is not racism,you Commie!
    -Signed Rev.Jackson Lee "Buster"Stephens, Lead Pastor, First Reformed Patriots Church.
     
  16. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I wish more conservatives would say this. As it stands, they're cowardly.
     
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  17. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    Give them time.
     
  18. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Yeah, they've said in so many different ways "we want the early 20th (or 19th) century back when things were simpler and everyone knew their place"
     
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  19. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    A superb article by the always excellent Gary Younge about Britain's refusal to accept the reality of it's colonial past...

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/ng...ber-how-britain-buried-its-history-of-slavery

    It's generally correct although it's worth pointing out the complete lack of ANY sort of political history taught in our schools. If people don't remember or understand their own history, they're unlikely to remember others.

    As he says...

    Today people will say “we won the war”, even if they didn’t fight and even if they weren’t born. They will say “we won the World Cup”, even if they didn’t play or weren’t born. Nobody takes the “we” literally. It signifies a collective identity that can span centuries and experiences. But when you mention slavery or colonialism, the same people will say: “I am not responsible. I wasn’t alive. I wasn’t there.” The collective, historical British identity that people would otherwise embody in moments of victory and national pride becomes suddenly and urgently estranged and elusive when it comes to less flattering periods in our history. This contradiction is clearly unsustainable.

    Nevertheless, it's a excellent article which should be read by British or other Europeans who have a colonial history.
     
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  20. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Not to diminish, but I’ve seen similar analysis about sports fans. The inclusive pronouns “we” “us” “our” etc.. is used when the team does well, but then then “they” “them” “their” etc. is used when the team does poorly.
     
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  21. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Here as well. "We beat the Japanese, Germans,... we made it to the moon... but somehow, "We" never discriminated against anyone, we never entered a store where Black women were prohibited from trying on a dress, never sat down at a Whites only lunch counter, never told a Black man he was wrong, never cheered for a cfb team that didn't allow Black players, never attanded a school where Black children were not welcome... the list goes on and on <Stephen Bishop>
     
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  22. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Good on those Manchester mill workers. Interesting that The Guardian leadership didn't support them back then.

    Some clowns are still saying colonialism was a good thing for the colonized.

    Perhaps the easiest way to understand why colonialism was so horrific is to imagine it happening in your own country now. It is invaded, conquered, and occupied by a foreign power. Existing governing institutions are dismantled and replaced by absolute rule of the colonizers. A strict hierarchy separates the colonized and the colonizer; you are treated as an inconvenient subhuman who can be abused at will. The colonists commit crimes with impunity against your people. Efforts at resistance are met with brutal reprisal, sometimes massacre. The more vividly and accurately you manage to conjure what this scenario would actually look like, the more horrified you will be by the very idea of colonialism.

    One would think this revulsion was now universally shared. But that is far from being the case. The majority of British people are still proud of colonialism and the British Empire. Americans continue to show an almost total indifference to the lasting poverty and devastation inflicted on the country’s indigenous population. Being pro-colonial is no bar to success in academia; Harvard historian Niall Ferguson has long defended the British Empire as a force for good in the world. And now, Princeton PhD and Portland State University professor Bruce Gilley has published an unapologetic “Case for Colonialism” in Third World Quarterly, a respected academic journal.

    Gilley’s article takes a very clear stance: not only was colonialism a force for good in the world, but anti-colonial sentiment is “preposterous.” What’s more, Gilley says, we need a new program of colonization, with Western powers taking over the governing functions of less developed countries. Gilley says he intends to overturn or revise three lines of criticism directed against colonialism: “that it was objectively harmful (rather than beneficial),” “that it was subjectively illegitimate (rather than legitimate),” and “that it offends the sensibilities of contemporary society.” Thus he is not just concerned to prove that colonialism was good and should be revived. He also wants to prove that it was “legitimate,” i.e. that there is nothing inherently unjust about invading and dominating a people.


    https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/09/a-quick-reminder-of-why-colonialism-was-bad
     
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  23. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The article in question was withdrawn ,but remember that racist Woodrow Wilson was President of Princeton.
     
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  24. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    "The New American Gothic" by Criselda Vasquez

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