The Official Cade Cowell thread

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  1. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
  2. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

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    Feb 28, 2004
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    If you're trying to sell, you're gonna talk up the merchandise. So Leitch's comments are plausible.

    Not saying the Daily Mail story is entirely accurate (because what media report ever is?), but "fact-checking" is a known synonym for lying -- even more unreliable than "data". :)

    And who the f*ck is Mark Errington?
     
  3. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    I'd feel better if I heard Leitch say those things or if they were reported by "The Epicenter Guys" and the few people who follow the team, because they'd tweet out those kinds of comments if they heard them. Did "TheDailyMail.com" get exclusive interviews with Leitchi and Cade? I suppose it's possible. There's nothing in there that seems completely out of line so I agree that it looks somewhat plausible. But it's also something that could be culled via ChatGPT as "realistic sounding quotes" based on other things they have said. "The Daily Mail" generally has a poor reputation, just above tabloid level. Wikipedia will not use them for source material, apparently. But it's also possible that "TheDailyMail.com" is a bit better than the print version.
     
  4. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

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    I sometimes hear things the Epicenter Guys don’t report. Maybe I should write for the Daily Mail? :)
     
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  5. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

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    The Mail has a poor reputation, but creating an extensive fake on-the-record interview with an American soccer player and GM isn't something it would likely do.
     
  6. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Probably true though with AI now it would be easy to create realistic sounding sort of composite quotes based on real quotes. I find it hard to believe Leitchi and Cade would give exclusive interviews with “TheDailyMail.com” but I suppose it’s possible.
     
  7. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    #1233 JazzyJ, Mar 24, 2023
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    "Hearing things" and purported 1 on 1 interviews are not the same thing. I "hear things" sometimes too. Usually, "voices" :).

    Anyway, my concern right now with Cade is in seeing him have one good game for the Quakes this year. Haven't seen it yet. When he does that, I'll be more more in the mood to entertain puff pieces in sketchy English periodicals about his blockbuster European prospects .
     
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  8. chris thebassplayer

    Feb 18, 2014
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    I’m not optimistic about his development with the Quakes. I think the FO is hoping he can improve his sale price by a bump in performance, but right now I’m a hard sell on Cade. Take the money and run. Imo, He is far from ready for a Euro move, but if he flattens out this season in performance, the value they can get for him drops. Right now the buzz on him is still high, but I haven’t liked what I’ve seen on the field for the Quakes. I’m sure he’d be thrilled by the move and imo, it would be in the best interest of the club to move him “sooner rather than later”
     
  9. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

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    Gonna be a long season with no Cade and no Benji.
     
  10. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
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    I know this is the Cade thread, but is it official that Benji is leaving?
     
  11. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

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    Does it matter? He’s disappeared already.
     
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  12. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    #1238 JazzyJ, Mar 24, 2023
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    It’s a long season. I predict by season’s end both Cade and Benji will have done enough good things that they’ll be back in our relative good graces. That’s a hopeful prediction but a prediction nonetheless. And looking forward to seeing Niko out there. He might help unlock these guys.
     
  13. chris thebassplayer

    Feb 18, 2014
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    #1239 chris thebassplayer, Mar 26, 2023
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    He had a nice turn and a great pass early in the game tonight but followed up with a ton of bad traps and lost possession in critical attacking positions. Jebo couldn't find the game either...really didn't help having two forwards...we got almost nothing by playing the extra forward.
     
  14. Kaitlyn

    Kaitlyn Member+

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    Feb 25, 2014
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    I'd like to see Bouda get a go as we've both discussed a bit. I like the 2-forward system, but we have to have 2 guys who compliment each other. We need a 9 an 11 or Target man so Bouda, Cowell or Jebo can make runs off them and pull a defender.
     
  15. chris thebassplayer

    Feb 18, 2014
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    I like 2 forwards also, but like you say, preferably with a savvy drop forward playing off the hold up of the other. It's too bad we can't clone Espinoza, because he would also be devastating under a good hold up forward...he could shoot or get behind the defense running the channels. Our forward mix is bugging right now...Jebo is streaking as hell, nice start to the season, followed by a couple turd games...Cade, more miss than hit...Benji completely out to lunch...if he is going play that disengaged Luchi has to park his butt firmly on the bench and give someone else a chance.
     
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  16. Kaitlyn

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    Cowell may very well be, just not that elite as many hope.

    Benji is playing like a USL player

    Jebo is playing like he did in Portland... inconsistent to non existant.

    Tsakiris is likely out for a while I also dont count the chickens with him "unlocking" anyone. Lets not float the boat and screw him with Thompson and Cowell level expectations only to come up short. He hasnt proven to be savior and we need to be cautiously optimistic.

    We need supplament for Ebobisse and it might be Bouda.

    But in any case, were 1 injury from disaster on offense.
     
  17. don gagliardi

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    We’re a third consecutive scoreless outing from disaster on offense. :)
     
  18. hc897

    hc897 Member+

    May 3, 2009
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    Given how many opportunities the Quakes had around the box against Toronto, I tend to think they'll break through again before too long. Some of those misplays against defenders are going to go Cowell's way, and hopefully he can capitalize. One thing that's frustrating is the unwillingness to shoot from forwards. When Yueill puts the best shot on target in a game, you know your offense is lacking.

    I don't know what Luchi is telling these guys, but it doesn't seem to be "shoot the em effing ball", which is really needs to be, at this point. Cowell, especially moved into a forward position, should be shooting a lot. He's going to miss a lot, but he needs to get used to shooting as second nature. He's strong enough to create powerful shots with little lead in, and that needs to be exploited as often as possible. The rebound potential alone would be worth the effort even if he doesn't get that many goals himself.
     
  19. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Luchi is encouraging them to shoot, based on what he's said in press conferences. But you're right, they're not doing it enough. Too much looking for yet another pass into traffic in the box.
     
  20. hc897

    hc897 Member+

    May 3, 2009
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    If he's telling them to shoot and they aren't doing it, then he's got to work on his communication skills. Or, perhaps he's using the public nature of an interview to kind of shame them a little. Ultimately, I haven't been all that impressed with Luchi's performances as a coach. Not saying he's terrible, but we're seeing serious regression so far in players that were on the verge of having really breakout seasons. They look timid offensively where they were more swashbuckly before.

    Maybe their efforts to solidify the defense has some play here? Hard to know, and I don't think that's necessarily the case given how much possession the Quakes had in attacking positions against Toronto. But they aren't going to get very far if they aren't willing to take chances. You'd think the fear of failure would have been beaten out of all these guys given how awful they were last year, but maybe that never leaves you.
     
  21. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

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    Luchi’s telling them to win and they’re not doing that, either. :)
     
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  22. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    The swash is there, they’re just missing on the buckle.
     
  23. SoccerMan94043

    SoccerMan94043 Member+

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    Or perhaps all buckle, no swash.
     
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  24. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    I think they're buckling under the swash - that's the problem.
     

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