England Senior National Team General Discussion Thread

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  1. Ste walker

    Ste walker Member

    Dec 2, 2016
    Club:
    Leeds United AFC
    So that’s why Maddison is starting, Southgate was forced into playing him it seems. I hope Toney gets some game time later and he doesn’t flog Kane again
     
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  2. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    He's had all season to do that. Waits till the international break to do it. On the one hand can't blame players like rashford foden pulling out when he persists with under performing players like Grealish Sterling mount
     
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  3. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Maddison, Toney and Kane would work together I’m sure
     
  4. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Chilwell in for Shaw.
    Henderson in for Phillips.
    Maddison in for Grealish.

    Confirmed changes.
     
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  5. Ste walker

    Ste walker Member

    Dec 2, 2016
    Club:
    Leeds United AFC
    I wouldn’t mind seeing two forwards on the pitch, Kane dropping back.
     
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  6. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Another reason for Maddison likely starting is that we would have zero width on the bench if Grealish and Saka both started.

    At least the bench has enough variety to cover all positions. Really stupid from Southgate again though to not replace options at the earliest opportunity.
     
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  7. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
  8. Ste walker

    Ste walker Member

    Dec 2, 2016
    Club:
    Leeds United AFC
    If we were needing a goal anyway
     
  9. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Don’t they usually release the line up an hour before kick off ??

    Why give our opponents more time to plan around the changes ?

    Throwing Maddison in an hour before would have given them some serious issues
     
  10. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    UEFA announce both the teams at the same time. Usually around 1 hour and 30 minutes before kick off.
     
  11. Ste walker

    Ste walker Member

    Dec 2, 2016
    Club:
    Leeds United AFC
    Southgate is taking unnecessary risks , hopefully everyone gets through the game ok
     
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  12. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
  13. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Yep and it won’t have been picked up by the journalists who never ever ask Southgate about his decisions not to call up replacements or his apparent objection to do so. I just find it quite bizarre but then again we shouldn’t be surprised when he doesn’t even give fringe players much game time anyway.
     
  14. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    On the other hand it means that Maddison and Toney will actually get on the pitch today. Toney didn't get any minutes in his last call up and Maddison got no minutes at the World Cup.
     
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  15. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    You would assume Grealish, Gallagher, Phillips and Toney will all be used from the bench.
     
  16. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    He was asked about it but said it was too late to call anyone at this point(day after Italy game). So why did they not ask ‘was it too late to replace Mount?’

    You could even ask ‘if you are concerned about a dwindling player pool do you not need to get more players involved when the opportunity arises?’

    He said something like replacements would come from the U21’s. That’s fine but do it. Someone like Jacob Ramsey would have been a good replacement for Mount.
     
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  17. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Not too bothered by that. Henderson gives us energy. Pressing. Something which Philips didn't do. Chilwell is a better left back than Shaw in my opinion
     
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  18. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Kazakhstan were losing 2-0 against Denmark with 17 mins to go. Kazakh’s won it 3-2 :eek::eek::eek:
     
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  19. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    So little options from the bench. Grealish and toney that's it. Pathetic that he hasn't brought anyone in
     
  20. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Philips looked rusty and low on confidence in the last game so he needed dropping. Maguire is lucky to be getting another start. It would be nice to see him play Guehi although I think we should see a lot more rotation in the next break. Personally I'd like to see Colwill and Stones in the backline.
     
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  21. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    If Colwill had not got injured a while ago he might have got his chance in these games. Probably better long term to leave it for the next meet up.
     
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  22. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Off topic but look at one of their goals -



    His first international goal in his career :eek:
     
  23. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Ukraine XI: Trubin, Matviienko, Stepanenko, Svatok, Karavaev, Mykolenko, Zinchenko, Sudakov, Malinovskyi, Mudryk, Yaremchuk
     
  24. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    They scored a few wonder goals v Scotland
     
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  25. Jimmy Skitz

    Jimmy Skitz Member+

    Leicester City
    England
    Nov 4, 2020
    don't expect Maddison to provide much width
     

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