Welcome Marco Asensio

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  1. Ahmadi8

    Ahmadi8 Member+

    Apr 14, 2005
    Bahrain
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    That's nice. Now is he worh the demanded renewal amount for the sort of output and role he most likely will be playing following seasons?
     
  2. Digital

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    Dec 10, 2012
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    Except Marco has had years to do much better than Rodrygo and has mostly been a lazy off the ball player until it is contract time, Rodrygo works far more for the team and the price of the players goes with the market at the time, so, context is important
     
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  3. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    Says everything that someone can defend Asensio who basically relaxed the past how many seasons and is 27 but will advocate selling Rodrygo or don't want to see Brahim in this team.
     
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  4. Shay Z

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    Jan 3, 2007
    Brahim might not set the RW on fire but he has to be better than what we are getting from that position currently. Pity Rodrygo didn't make that position his, it was there for the taking. It's just not Rodrygo's best position seeing his natural tendencies, i am hoping he develops his game where he can be very good coming in from the RW. Players have done that before. In all fairness, our left sided dominant attack doesn't do anyone on the right any favors. Last season it was little better when Benzema was making every thing work, this season has been a sad state of affairs when it comes to attacking tactics. It's just a one man team.
     
  5. Digital

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    Dec 10, 2012
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    I forgot to add, IMO no one player can win or lose you games but, Rodrygo has 3 crucial goals in knockout rounds of the CL helping the team to the trophy , goals helping the team to the league title when Benz was out, and CL hattrick Marco has general laziness and the occasional outrageous screamer of a goal, so, there's also that...........
     
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  6. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    We can do better than all of them. Asensio was a decent squad player for us, arguably that's what we're looking at Rodrygo as well as far as i'm concerned.

    It's a negotiation. If he wants more than the club is offering, he is free to consider his options.
     
  7. Ahmadi8

    Ahmadi8 Member+

    Apr 14, 2005
    Bahrain
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    Real Madrid
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    Bahrain
    His attitude and the agent he hired says everything. We aren't in the meetings but it's enough to tell what he's demanding.

    It's over for him at this club the moment he signed with Mendes.
     
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  8. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    People get overly emotional about it, but personally I'm thankful of his service. If he thinks he deserves more he's free to go and get it. I wouldn't want us to do whatever it takes to keep him but I'm not disappointed about anything regarding his time at the club.
     
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  9. Ahmadi8

    Ahmadi8 Member+

    Apr 14, 2005
    Bahrain
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    Bahrain
    I dont see anyone disappointed with his time at the club. What's disappointing is that he didn't achieve even more, considering his talent, to justify keeping him.
     
  10. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Most of his time was spent behind Ronaldo Benzema and Bale. We've established him as a substitute from the beginning. Hard to say he should've achieved more, because to be honest the best way to do that would have been to leave the club like Odegaard did.
     
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  11. Digital

    Digital Member+

    Dec 10, 2012
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    You have actually watched Marco play and can say that you are not disappointed about anything regarding his time at the club? it cannot be all about stats.

    IMO apart from the last 6 months or so, and aside from the outstanding but not often enough goals he's scored, watching Marco when he got on the pitch more often than not carelessly wander about when we don't have the ball, lose the ball and never track back , just walk away like retrieving it had nothing to do with him and wasn't part of his job, running alongside opponents but never bothering to tackle them in the smallest attempt to win the ball whilst they bore down on our goal thus making defending for us harder, and just general lack of interest when we weren't in possession disappointed me time and time again, he just didn't try hard enough, at times these things were happening when we were desperately chasing games, sometimes he'd come on as a sub and look lazier than guys who'd been playing for 60 70 mins

    I cannot recall a big moment for the team from Marco, in the league or the CL, none, and he's been with us for about 7 years, he even said carrying the team was not his job or something like that, maybe i am missing something and if i am i'm sure i'll be corrected.
     
  12. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Of course carrying his team is not his job, he said the quiet part out loud. When he earns 3, and another guy earns 13, why should responsibility be shared equally?

    Folks want bench warmers to come on and save the team but when they do so and want more money and attention we lob them over to whoever pays the most.

    It's a business. Asensio provided good overall value for money. You need guys like that on the team as well, and even though a lot of them sell the myth that they give their all, a lot of guys won't take the heat because the stars aren't delivering.

    It's the same topic I've mentioned. The team blows and we trot Tibo and Nacho out in the press because we know they'll get softball questions. Why should Nacho try to justify it when captains and guys we rely on suck?
     
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  13. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
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    #1788 Hendrix22, Mar 27, 2023
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    Asensio is an okay squad player. We hoped he would become more than that, but since we paid peanuts for him, I'd say its fine that he didn't. Its all about adjusting your expectations, and with Asensio I had to do it twice lol, but now I'm at peace with him.

    Of course, we could have tried to upgrade him for a marginally better squad player, but given the lethargy that defines our transfer policy of late, we should probably be happy we have a body there at all, because it could have easily been the case of "we have Lunin, he can play there in case of emergency".

    People laughed this summer at my idea of replacing Asensio with Dybala, but he has been his usual creative spark for Roma this season and he earns 4 million per year compared to Asensio's 5. For free, it would have been a shrewd signing: would have slightly improved both our roster and our finances. But... Insert Tchala meme here.
     
  14. Lyra

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    Apr 29, 2013
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  15. PigBenis

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    Sep 5, 2015
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    He's trying to get a new contract, obviously.
     
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  16. Baltor

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    Oct 24, 2016
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    #1791 Baltor, Apr 4, 2023
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    I am with you on this. I have always been a fan of Asensio, and still is. I don’t understand why other fans don’t see that he is a success all along, often deliver and live up to the limited occasions that he is called upon.
     
  17. RaMaaa

    RaMaaa Member+

    Feb 3, 2013
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    Asensio brilliant squad player. Don't understand this BS. Of course, if he wants double his wages, than it 's no go. If not,he must stay.
     
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  18. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
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    Phenomenal squad player

    if he is ok on this role keep him

    but if he wants more, then adios amigo. Que te vaya bien
     
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  19. Digital

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    Dec 10, 2012
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    Decent squad player, too lazy, more often than not his goals aren't crucial but when we are already blowing teams out of the water, if he stays fine if not also fine.
     
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  20. boeder

    boeder Member+

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    Feb 27, 2013
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    Guy's been really good for the best part of the season, I hope that's not just him playing for a new contract/wage increase. He can be a tremendous asset off the bench but if he wants a starting spot, he'll probably end up leaving..
     
  21. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
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    I think we just lowered our expectations of him, finally...
     
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  22. saadomar

    saadomar Member+

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    Mar 21, 2013
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  23. arcane

    arcane Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    Philippines
    His goals aren't crucial, yet he's the most consistent scoring threat against minnows and blowouts.

    Something that can't be said for the entire team hence the La Liga struggles.
     
  24. Digital

    Digital Member+

    Dec 10, 2012
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    Real Madrid
    That doesn’t make any sense to me, are you suggesting that in all his time with us he’s the reason we’ve been able to beat “minnows and blowouts” (not sure what that means either) and if not we struggle to win La Liga, because I’ve been watching long enough, and none of that is the case, so I’m not getting the point you are trying to make sorry,

    Marco has generally been a lazy player off the ball, who in his own words did not want the responsibility of trying to lead the team, unlike say Vin now, no matter what he has done recently, what I’ve said is more his story, not sure what you are getting at, he’s contributed with a few spectacular goals here and there for sure, but I don’t think his “scoring threat” has had any direct link to any title we’ve ever won
     
  25. saadomar

    saadomar Member+

    Real Madrid
    Mar 21, 2013
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    Real Madrid
    We also have to be careful about getting too hyped about Marco in a contract season. He's basically shopping himself to his next team. If he wants a payout he thinks he deserves, he had to produce. I think he goes to another team next season no matter what. At least he is consistently scoring. I wish that came against the teams for which we dropped points, not the teams we are destined to beat even without his contribution. We needed Marco to be a difference maker, but he's ended up as an efficient 1st sub.
     

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