thats totally different questions should MLS keep developing players ? of course should there be any current MLSers on the USMNT? no whats the problem? do my previous two answers mean I hate MLS? no I just dont want it diluting my true favorite team - the USMNT. its been 6 months since the WC and greggs roster picks are aging like rotten milk ferreira over pepi? lol roldan over zendejas? lol long over like 8 other CBs? lol zimmerman as a starter? lol morris on the roster? lol shaq moore over scally? lol shaq moore over reynolds? lol not playing ldlt- wtf (although that poorly-timed move to celta was a backbreaker for the team and kinda took the decision out of GBs hands, somewhat) sersiously greggg effed up the USMNT to prop up MLS.....its so obvious no one can see it.
speaking of pathology - berhalters is that he cares only about himself. i think narcissism is created by the commercialism of capitalism encouraging us all to be selfish....its better for business.
You guys would be booted from that place in no time. You would have to come back to this MLS bubble to spread your propaganda I will come back to the GKs. It doesn't seem like you understand the landscape in this country. You know there are other professional leagues in this country right? Some of these professional clubs even have academies. Wait, some are actually making money selling players. There is strong foundation that with the proper governance of a federation could blow up in a very short time frame. Good point on Steffen. MLS was good spot for him for a couple of years. Playing for Pittsburgh was also a good spot. As I alluded to above, I think if MLS weren't around their already massive would be turbo charged. Steffen's issue wasn't talent, but wanting/needing to come home. If MLS wasn't around, maybe he spends a second season in Pittsburgh and heads back abroad somewhere. Given how disastrous people act like his time with Man City was, id think they would be interested in him taking a different path. As for Horvath, he is at least close to Friedel at his age. Friedel was back in MLS after floating around Europe not getting many games. I dont know what Horvath's ceiling is and don't necessarily think he is going to get to their level, but who knows. His path is actually more like Keller and Friedel than any of them. I didn't say it was their fault but it is something that happened. I definitely think there were some players that would have benefited. The argument back then was that the league was good enough. Apparently not. They did fight with USMNT coach and bring a number starters back MLS. So maybe they are a little at fault.
I guess the US is a true soccer nation now. The fandom is truly tribal. It's just like comics: You're either DC or Marvel/. You're Star Wars or Star Trek. Am I the only one who is saddened by this?
Booted only because there is only one correct point of view and ideology on those platforms. Here's the thing about those other "paths." Nobody knows what paths would have existed if MLS wasn't formed, or any league of a different moniker formed would survive after WC 94. Until the delusional owners of the Cosmos stepped in the NASL was set to forge a partnership with MLS for developing young players. USL was barely holding on, with teams folding as fast as they were announced. The Pro soccer landscape in the US was pretty damn bleak from 1984- 2008ish? Players had to have multiple part time jobs and side gigs to help them make ends meat to pursue their dreams of being a pro soccer player in the US, and even MLS at that time. Not sure if anyone has noticed, but most USL Championship players make less than $55K / year. Yes, some USL teams have academies, this is something that is relatively new within the past 4 years. I haven't seen any information on whether or not these are fully funded ventures, pay to play, or a combination of the two. More pathways is a good thing. There needs to be more. The more professional clubs and academies in the US the better. It all leads to kids seeing that there is a pathway to being a professional soccer player, and also having the ability to make a decent to good living doing so. That will only lead to better talent in the long run.
MLS and its closed system is an impediment to that. BTW, I saw liked a post defending Berhalters decision just yesterday. I went round and round on the topic with quite few folks over the years. Gogo consistently misrepresents what happened and made false claims today in a thread for Hudson. Gomichigan would support those MLS lifers playing for days. I remember him because he could never understand why I was upset about Berhalter wasting 2019. "Why does it matter? It is the beginning of the cycle".
I assume you would blow up MLS, since you have repeatedly stated over and over that nothing good has come from MLS, and that the league has accomplished nothing. Obviously there are other leagues, but they don't have money, popularity, or players (first team and academy. You also mentioned players like Keller did fine developing without MLS as a league. So what would you do? Or what would you suggest a prospect do? Not many people have dual passports to bypass MLS and make the leap directly to Europe.
One thing I can count you guy for, distort all my opinions. I happily complement the league on things I like. An MLS fan would never do that. I would get rid of Garber. I would update the requirements to playing at each division level. Id require all professional leagues to merge into one pyramid and institute promotion/relegation. Id get rid of MLS' single entity and offer MLS franchise owners favorable terms to start a club in the first division. There would be some basic salary caps, probably some profit sharing within leagues and across the pyramid. This likely increas clubs outside MLS getting involved in player development. I'm sure there are other incentives that could be created. The federation should work closely with the leagues to figure out how to improve abysmal coaching in this country. I apologize for the vagueness, but haven't thought much about this as currently not that close to it and it ain't happening any way.
Have you not paid attention to the lower division domestic leagues over the years? Do you not have a good understanding of pro/rel?
I didn't ask you. Did you accidentally answer with the wrong sock? I don't want Gregg back, but do you really think he was propping up MLS with his bench players - even those that never saw the game? He gave more time at the world cup to European players than any other US coach. He had his faults, and made some player choices I thought were wrong, but to think anyone would sabotage their opportunity at the highest level to prop a league is delusional.
Nobody wanted to invest in soccer in the 1990s, or 1980s, or 1930s, 1940s or 1950s. There was a brief opportunity in the 1960s and 70s and they blew it. Even in the 2000s it took a bailout to keep MLS going. NASL failed, USL relied on MLS to keep it going after the NASL split. NISA is really working out
As you know without Christian Roldan’s presence on the World Cup roster as the 26th man, MLS would collapse all together. Thank god Berhalter was willing to use Roldan and Sean Johnson’s place on the bench in Qatar to hold MLS together.
what is the word people have been using lately? Right, objectively. Ok, the reason he gave time than other coach is because those European based players are objectively on a complete different level than the MLS players. The real question is why did he play those inferior players all cycle and include them on the WC roster when there were other viable euro based players who could have helped the team or at least benefitted from the experience?
Hey, its the guy that defends Berlhater shitty roster selection and doesn't think at least the first year of cycle matters at all.