Colombian National Team General Thread

Discussion in 'Colombian National Team' started by sidspaceman, May 18, 2015.

  1. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    It definitely can, but he's one of our best at evading pressure while on the ball and his distribution is a huge weapon to punish teams that press really high. The issue is we gotta have runners around him and ideally the midfielders we have that play with him can break with the ball from midfield. If we still run out Uribe/Lerma who can't break with the ball from midfield and can't beat a press in possession we're gonna continue to be sitting ducks to pressing teams.

    Diaz/James/Sini are going to be a nightmare to press when paired together, we just need to sort out at least 1-2 more midfielders who can carry the running in midfield to shield James weaknesses and allow him to dictate on the ball.
     
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  2. Azucarero

    Azucarero Member+

    May 9, 2008
    Exactly. Play him in a system that takes advantage of him, and he is still very valuable. Even without those ideal speedy players, he is still producing. James is not the problem.

    That said, for a long time this was the argument about Falcao until recently. He was our best finisher ever, but he also became extremely limited physically around 7 years ago. Unfortunately, we were only able to field the right guys around him once or twice (vs Poland in 18 comes to mind).

    I bring that up because, as we're seeing right now, we often don't have the necessary people ready to go at the same time. Key players get injured, younger players have to establish themselves, the veterans (like James himself) have become limited in their strengths.

    Because of that, I don't think Lorenzo should plan his ideal lineup with James in it. Hell, James himself is likely to get injured at any minute. At the same time, I dislike how Colombian fans are basically becoming like Everton fans. Turning on a guy who produces more than most of your team instead of the bums who produce nothing just because they run harder for 90s minutes.
     
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  3. kromekote

    kromekote Member+

    May 22, 2012
    Club:
    America de Cali
    completely agree here. James can still be effective but he is so injury prone that to rely on James would be simply irresponsible. Feel the same about Mina, even if he gets back to fitness.

    Just hoping Lorenzo can bring some balance to the full match and not just 15 minutes of our best futbol. The last 3 coaches have had similar experiences. Let's see how we look vs Japan. Siri, Diaz, Barrios and Lerma will help our options.
     
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  4. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    James may not be the problem but I still think JuanFer in the Paraguay match made better decisions and passed the ball better than what James did yesterday in the first half. Granted, It was one of Quinterito's best matches I have seen him do in a while.
    James is his own worst enemy because we have seen what he can do in the past and now just seemed to be too slow to pull the trigger and too slow to pass it and get it intercepted.
    JuanFer rarely gets deflected or intercepted in those same types of tight windows/passing lanes.

    That said, Paraguay in Florida is a different environment and style of play so maybe I am being too harsh but that was my honest observations on the fly.
     
  5. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    Yea

    Paraguay in Florida vs Korea at their house

    no comparison there
     
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  6. kromekote

    kromekote Member+

    May 22, 2012
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Colombia is where OGs go to retire. JFQ playing FPC at 30 is not going to end well. Time to move on as much as I think he's still a fin player to watch.
     
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  7. Azucarero

    Azucarero Member+

    May 9, 2008
    You're forgetting how he completely revived his career when he went to DIM in 2017.

    But, fundamentally, I do agree. We shouldn't stifle Carrascal and, potentially, Yaser's development for JFQ and James who are on the decline.

    I'm positive James and JFQ can and will contribute to the next qualifying cycle. But I don't want Carrascal to be handed that role with barely any experience in it when those two eventually get injured.
     
  8. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  9. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Can we like not ever call this dude again? I really want us to move on from one of the most disappointing players in our history.

    His fitness and injuries occurring have really been a concern for a good while and it's best to just focus on the current players that can actually contribute...
     
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  10. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
     
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  11. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    Our midfield is going to be a big problem this cycle if we don't develop some players there fast. Deep playmakers like James and Quintero can work, but they still need to stay fit and I'm not sure we have the management to pull this off. Not calling Alzate is crazy to me, against a team like Korea and Japan who will press us and run like crazy he's the perfect profile.
     
  12. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Agreed - Yaser is the best answer over time if he just gets playing time...
     
  13. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I think Lorenzo is handling everything perfectly, the way he's incorporating the newer guys while slowing easing out the older guys.
     
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  14. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    right, that imo is the saddest part, Korea themselves are not much of an attacking threat but all they had to do was pin us against the wall repeatedly and they were able to fabricate a pair of goals, completely avoidable situation and totally unnecessary.

    James was fine all things considered, but problem is the teammates surrounding him need to be prepared to cover him at all times which right now I do not see Colombia in that mindset yet despite the fact that we have the players for that imo.

    perhaps someone like Wilmar Barrios would have come in handy here, now that i think about it
     
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  15. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Los 9s deben ser

    Duran
    Borre
    Suárez

    Extremos
    Arias
    Díaz
    Sinisterra
    Valoyes
    Mosquera cuando se recupere

    Diez
    Carrascal
    James
    Yaser por encima de Quintero

    8s
    Uribe
    Puerta
    Mantilla


    5s
    Castaño
    Portilla
    Barrios
     
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  16. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Rumors are Germany for our next friendlies
     
  17. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    With you everywhere other than Uribe at 8. He was awful again today.
     
  18. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    so not in the US?
     
  19. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Nope.

    The Fed is reportedly looking at European competition on European soil.
     
  20. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Lerma when healthy seems to be Lorenzo's preferred 5.
    That said, he seemed to be Rueda's too until a few games in when Barrios played well against Argentina so anything can happen.
     
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  21. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Yea I was kidding just remember us being linked to Italy but didn’t get the game because we wanted to play In the us
     
  22. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    nah otherwise, stuck playing Mexico, El Salvador or the US again for like the 30th time
     
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  23. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    They haven't had much to do since the world cup ended like us so they would be a good opponent.
     
  24. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I love this period when all we have is our optimism! And a pinch of Doogs' pessimism!

    Right now, I'm just dreaming of getting to Sept and being able to field something like:

    -------------------- Duran -----------------
    Diaz ------------Carrascal-------------Sini
    ----------- Barrios --- Asprilla---------
    Machado - Lucumi - Cuesta - Munoz
    --------------------Vargas------------------
     
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  25. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I thought I was being optimistic actually

    Asprilla in that role sounds dangerous
     
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