Post-match: The Post Presidency :: Trump Faces The Music Thread

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  1. The Jitty Slitter

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    Georgia started quite a long time ago but of course the case isn't just based on the call.
     
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  2. The Jitty Slitter

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    This isn't true.

    There are significant indicators that the GJ was wrapping up - they were covered in great detail.

    Remember that the journos can just go down to where the GJ is and see who is coming and going. They have a reasonable idea of where it was at.

    Experienced prosecutors pointed out that GJ indictments are hard to predict and can be delayed for many different reasons including boring process and scheduling. It's just normally, no one is leaking.

    So it may be a short delay, or there isn't going to be an indictment, or a long delay - we simply don't know

    Preets show (experienced prosecutors) rated indictment at high 90s - we just don't know the reasons why it didn't drop.
     
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  3. BocaFan

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    I'm no expert on the how these processes work, I'm just literally quoting what the journalists themselves were saying early this week. Which was to the effect of "Trump announced he will be arrested on Tuesday, HOWEVER we saw witnesses come in and out today indicating that the process is still on going."

    Of course, 95% of their coverage on this story was on the part before the "HOWEVER" and only 5% on the boring latter part which nullifies the part before the HOWEVER. :ROFLMAO:
     
  4. Yoshou

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    No. The juror absence is due to a pre-planned doctor's appointment. I believe their illness is a chronic one and not a "I have the flu".
     
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  5. Yoshou

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    I think it is fairly obvious that the Tuesday date was created by Trump. However, it was tentatively based on Bragg informing Trump's lawyers that the GJ was wrapping up and that they should start negotiating how Trump is going to turn himself in if the GJ comes back and recommends an indictment.
     
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  6. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    Right.

    OTOH if Trumpers were more engaged right now, then his calling for protests (and glaringly not saying they should be peaceful) & also calling Bragg an animal could have dire consequences. It's not good for the country that he's still a free man. We've become so blase about the dangers he poses. Remember "just let him vent" after the 2020 election was a recipe for the 1/6 disaster.
     
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  7. diablodelsol

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    When he’s finally indicted…I’m not sure how a judge could ever allow him to be released pretrial…at a minimum w/o strict rules about saying anything in public.
     
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  8. yossarian

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    ...which he will violate immediately.
     
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  9. diablodelsol

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    Exactly. But I think you’d actually have to give him the rope to hang himself right?
     
  10. Sounders78

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    IF he's ever convicted, he'll just get house arrest. He'll continue using social media by using Donnie Jr's account.
     
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  11. roadkit

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    Honestly, just pull the fvcker out of his office at Mar-A-Lago, put him up against the wall along with Uday and Qusay and Ceaucescu them. Enough is enough.
     
  12. diablodelsol

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    You may be right…but judging by some of the rapid responses to his appeals lately…there’s the possibility that the overwhelming majority of federal justices are waking up to just how truly dangerous Donald trump is. As @superdave said…he’s Charles Manson with 25 million followers.
     
  13. JamesA

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    Hes more David Koresh without the religious slant than Charles Manson.

    Hes more charismatic and less creepy than Manson.
     
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  14. Q*bert Jones III

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    Is he though?
     
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  15. JamesA

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    Yes. He's really quite charismatic at times.
     
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  16. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    But wait...there's more!

    1639335510303973381 is not a valid tweet id
     
  17. xtomx

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    Coincidence, of course.

    "Maybe it was Bragg's mail order cocaine? -Some right wingers, probably.
    "Oh, no, he smokes crack." -Some other right winger, definitely.
     
  18. soccernutter

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    As I'm reading though this past week, some comments:

    Trump has faced the music. We've all see the videos, and it's not pretty.

    We all know that Trump is the one who created the Tuesday drama. And it makes sense he would think his cult would turn up. Because he's been trying to relive 2020 since the election results.

    So many of his supporters use anything against him for self-serving purposes. He has a lot of grifters who support him, and the outrage will be manufactured again and again for their own needs.

    Subscribed
     
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  19. soccernutter

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    You may not like him, but we have the Rule of Law. At least on our side we do.
    And you are not thinking though any possible consequences. What happens when somebody like H Clinton and her 30k missing emails (and all the other conspiracies) is pulled out of her office and executed before she gets to experience the Rule of Law?

    Honestly, apart from promoting the same violence Trump is, that is a really shitty take.
     
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  20. yossarian

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    You're overselling TFG and underselling Charlie.
     
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  21. soccernutter

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    This post, out of context, is really weird. On the frightening level of weird.

    Then I read up and realized it was Charles Manson, and not @charlie15

    And then I became disturbed, confusing Charles Manson with charlie15
     
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  22. yossarian

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    Ha! I've never met @charlie15 in person but I'm sure he's quite charismatic.
     
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  23. soccernutter

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    Wait, you meat Charles Manson in person?
     
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  24. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

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    I acknowledge your admonishment for a shitty take and while it was meant in jest -- in the sense that give Trump the thing he respects in other authoritarians -- I too respect the ROL and have been a strong anti-death penalty advocate on these boards for a long time. So yeah, I was frustrated, shitty take, all true. Thanks for calling me out on it.
     
  25. NGV

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    This is a pretty funny - and telling - quote by Trump:



    Since Trump is intellectually incapable of comprehending basic principles of law or the Constitution, he assumes that attorney-client privilege exists because attorneys have traditionally had "a very high status in life." He presumably thinks that "executive privilege" is rooted in the same idea, and can't understand why the courts would suddenly fail to respect those social privileges.
     
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