Next Coach

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by nbarbour, Dec 3, 2022.

  1. dams

    dams Member+

    United States
    Dec 22, 2018
    #3701 dams, Mar 24, 2023
    Last edited: Mar 24, 2023
    Call me nuts but the way I look at it is that Hudson is our coach right now. If he remains through nations league and wins it, and lays beatdowns on the teams that he should and handles the better teams sufficiently. If he has a dynamic attack that is scoring goals and a defense that is at least status quo. If the team looks cohesive on the field and the guys in the locker room have no issues with him. If he seems adaptable tactically and his in game management looks good. Then past records aside, I think that he needs to be at least in consideration for the job.

    Those are a hell of a lot of ifs but in my mind he is auditioning, and his audition really begins tonight. With the A team in a meaningful game. We need to see two dominant performances this window, particularly in the goal scoring department. If he manages that, then he will start to get my attention.
     
  2. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    If he puts Gio in front of a double pivot and behind the front three, I will nominate him for king of all American soccer. Because at least we will finally get to see what that looks like. If it fails, we will have learned something. If it succeeds it could unlock a lot of good things going forward.
     
  3. tefftlon

    tefftlon Member

    Real Madrid
    United States
    Jan 11, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Which games in particular? Because we smashed Grenada in Berhalter's system last time we played. El Salvador has been tough but still got a 1-1 in a mudbog where the conceded goal was definitely a player mistake.
     
  4. dams

    dams Member+

    United States
    Dec 22, 2018
    All of them, by the time NL is over we should have a good idea of how the team is performing. I want to see a convincing win against El Salvador at home BTW.

    I'm not trying to make it a referendum on GGG last cycle. All I am saying is that Hudson should get some consideration if the team is clicking on all cylinders, and I'm one that generally feels that should mean taking care of business in CONCACAF without too many problems.
     
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  5. a_new_fan

    a_new_fan Member+

    Jul 6, 2006
    there is no such thing as clicking on all cylinders against this awful competition.

    im trying to be open beating Mexico 4-0 would be a decent result others then that there is nothing this window or in the gold cup or nations league that would be impressive.

    cheering about beating teams that would struggle to make a 75 team World Cup isn’t impressive.
     
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  6. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's probably going to Tottenham, Chelsea, Real Madrid or someone along those lines.

    But if we did want to bring him in, Bayern is still paying his salary so we wouldn't have to break the bank to hire him.

     
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  7. Roger Allaway

    Roger Allaway Member+

    Apr 22, 2009
    Warminster, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do you realize that over the last 40 years, the toughest obstacle for us in World Cup qualifying has been Costa Rica, not Mexico?
     
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  8. redondos

    redondos Member

    AC Milan
    United States
    Nov 16, 2022
    Amen.

    Mexico has occasionally stolen our girlfriends, but CR bangs the wife at least once a cycle. It's brutal.
     
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  9. Kirium

    Kirium Member

    Jun 18, 2007
    Edmond, OK
    My dream combination:

    Bierhoff for sporting director
    Ancelotti as coach ( I understand it's not likely)

    next:
    Bierhoff
    Low

    If the US Insists on hiring someone as SD that's within the US tree then I'd look at Bob Bradley for SD.
     
  10. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I just don't think Bob Bradley would be interested in the sporting director job as I think he doesn't want to give up coaching yet.

    Bierhoff may or may not be interested but is a plausible name.

    With Ancelotti I feel like the way things are going he's going to end up leaving Real Madrid but coaching Brazil.
     
  11. belyin

    belyin Member

    Jun 1, 2006
  12. KALM

    KALM Member+

    Oct 6, 2006
    Boston/Providence
    Yeah. Largely owing to our abysmal away record against Costa Rica.

    In the modern era (and I'd start in 1989 for that), we have basically an identical home record against Mexico and Costa Rica in WCQ on a ppg basis. On the road, we've managed more draws than losses against Mexico. And even though we still haven't won there, that's better than our away record against Costa Rica, where we have yet to pick up a single road point against them during that period.
     
  13. Kirium

    Kirium Member

    Jun 18, 2007
    Edmond, OK
    I agree that if Anceloti coaches a National Team that it may be Brasil.

    But I also just don't see the US getting a highly revered coach like an Ancelotti without a well known successful person in the SD role.

    I haven't seen any names outside of US names for the SD role, but it'd be pretty shocking if their consulting firm isn't reaching out to guys like Bierhoff. You get Bierhoff then you could possibly get a well known manager.

    I also figure that Bob doesn't want the SD role, but if they (USSF) goes domestic I still think he's the most qualified.
     
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  14. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree with you Bradley would be one of the more qualified domestic candidates, though only chance for him is if things really go sideways in Toronto.

    I also agree they should at least reach out to and try to interview Bierhoff. He’s plausible in that I don’t know that a ton of club teams are beating down the door to hire, but it’s still an open question as to his interest level (but one we should ask).
     
  15. grandinquisitor28

    Feb 11, 2002
    Nevada
    and our goal was a last second miracle and its worth noting, those games were 0-0, 1-0, 1-1, El Salvador flat out had our number in the sense that Perez knew exactly how to shut down what Berhalter wanted to do, full stop.
     
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  16. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Crushing El Salvador in a competitive match and crushing Mexico in any environment would be feathers in Hudson's cap.
     
  17. grandinquisitor28

    Feb 11, 2002
    Nevada
    Piggy backing on that:

    Our last four trips to Azteca:

    2009: Better team early, only lost when swine flu fatigued Donovan lost his man in the closing minutes, 1-2 defeat.

    2013: 0-0 Draw. Not bad.

    2017: 1-1 Draw off Bradley Chip.

    2022: 0-0 Draw in which the US was largely the superior side, and had to epic fail two pretty straight forward finishes to leave w/o a victory.

    We haven't been demonstrably outclassed in Mexico in qualifying since 2005.

    Costa Rica has whipped our --- by multiple goals in virtually every qualifier we've played since 1997. Nobody has called me on this over the years as I've posted on it before, but I always forget we actually played them fairly well on the road in semifinal round qualifying in 2000 and tied them until Prendergast took his bribe and gifted them a 92nd or 93rd min penalty for the win on the infamous Berhalter 3rd arm "hand ball". And we just had 0-2 loss where for the first time in my experience, we actually looked like the better side, until some subs mixed with horrific keeping from Steffen conspired to cost us the game.

    But yeah, Costa Rica has absolutely dominated us historically since 2001, flat out owned us. El Tri had their way with us for decades upon decades but it's been more than 15 years since they genuinely outclassed us in a home qualifier.

    So basically, since I've been watching, we've produced good performances in the '97 hex, the '00 Semifinal Round, and the
     
  18. Crewmudgeon

    Crewmudgeon Member+

    Sep 3, 1999
    Crewdom
    I want Nagelsmann if only to hear Danielle critique his hipster wardrobe.
     
  19. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Does Nagelsmann also do bounce passes?
     
  20. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    If Ancelotti coaches a national team it might be Canada. And the IS is just a short drive to his house.:)
     
  21. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It sounds like Tottenham is already moving on him, but some interesting bits from the Athletic post mortem.

    https://theathletic.com/4343865/202...cked-inside-story/?source=user_shared_article

    Players had complained the coach was overcomplicating things in training, making too many changes during games and not communicating enough with them…In addition, there was a latent tension between his preferred possession game and a more direct style favoured by some influential members of the dressing room...While some players who had experienced Pep’s exacting standards and his constant adjustment to the opposition were at ease with Nagelsmann’s attempts at micro-management, a sizeable contingent found him overbearing. “He puts the system over the needs of the players,” was an oft-repeated complaint in club HQ corridors.

    Though this stuff is hilarious

    Nagelsmann didn’t help his cause by occasionally showing his inexperience. Eyebrows were raised when he arrived to training on a skateboard and drove a motorcycle in town, part of a pattern of behaviour more suited to an older brother than the father figure craved by the dressing room.
     
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  22. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    The Brazil players have been talking about him like he's already theirs.
     
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  23. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Interesting. Bayern players had complained about Ancelotti being too lax in training. Maybe his moving on to bigger and better things and winning UCL has changed their minds.
     
  24. a_new_fan

    a_new_fan Member+

    Jul 6, 2006
    i don’t care neither is good and cr was awful last cycle.
     
  25. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It would be weird for Hudson to be given the job, but for an interim manager, thus far, he’s received an A+ rating for me. I hope US soccer keeps him around.
     
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