The US picked 3 points against an opponent that had beaten it at a World Cup before, and picked up 1 point against a prominent European team. Wait, am I talking about Klinsmann and 2014 or Berhalter and 2022?
Why do you assume that everyone who disagrees with you is obsessed with mls and hates European soccer? Yeah, I watch the earthquakes. Yeah, I’m aware that the league isn’t very good, and yeah, I’m aware that our best players are almost exclusively playing in Europe. what’s with your weird persecution complex where everybody who disagrees with you is an mls apologist on garber’s payroll? I honestly haven’t seen anyone talk about mls in this context except for you. Why is that?
Here is an example of BS talking about soccer games. Belgium dominated the USA in 2014 Argentina dominated the USA in 2016 Argentina struggled against Panama in 2023 Let's the stats of the games allegedly dominated vs the one the team struggled. Possession - 45%/68% vs 75% Shots - 39/11 vs 26 Shots against - 11/0 vs 2 Goals - 2/4 vs 2 GA - 1/0 vs 0 Hard to figure out games that played out a similar way are described so extremely different. Not really. It is just follows common narrative on here.
I mean wcq is really, really hard and we got through comfortablyat top of the group (including tying in Azteca). We won the ********ing GC. We won friendlies away against Slovenia, Italy, Mexico, and big boys Panama. We won friendlies at home against Germany and Venezuela. We that team that team that Arena and Bradley couldn't with LD. Now the BS crowd will claim that team was in turmoil, but it proceed to Germany 2-2 next. That doesn't really ring true when you think about how dominant was winning 6 and tying just 1 and only giving up 4 goals in 7 games. Came just short of beating Portugal. Had a chance to win the Rd of 16 game in regulation and then a chance to tie in overtime. Pretty good World Cup by US standards.
Nope. I know some folks who support teams but don't support MLS. Most folks on here don't fit that profile. I find it very weird that USMNT fans talk so much about a Canadian player. Its because they are MLS fans before USMNT fans.
arena failed in couva....that stint was "we have players in MLS that can get the job done" last season in MLS, arena brought in a bunch of vets and they flopped...omar gonzalez or whoever altirde, lletget etc...... he's had his successes...but he was WRONG about MLS in his second stint as USMNT manager. american soccer is not being run to improve american soccer its being made to fill the pockets of billionairs who know almost nothing about the sport. MLS is overly commercial and a single entity racket. i watched it from day 1...i want it to be good but i know as long as the leaders of that league are still in place progress will be glacially slow.
I have also watched MLS since Day 1. I see a much more attractive game built around younger, mostly Latin American stars. The quality is much better. Hacks like Jesse Marsch (the player) could not play in this league any more, except for perhaps a few coaches. The single entity model was adopted for a reason, but I agree it is becoming an anachronistic. It suppresses defender salaries, and is to me the main quality deficit. It also makes the last 15 or 20 minutes of each game too open.
30 minutes in and nice to see this team take control. They learned how to play in MLS, and that has brought them together, even though they play all over in Europe.
That also goes for China, England, Spain, Italy and most other countries. Premier League owners include the owners of the L.A. Rams, the Milwaukee Bucks, the Las Vegas Golden Knights, the Boston Red Sox, the New Jersey Devils, the Philadelphia 76ers, the Jacksonville Jaguars and the San Francisco 49ers plus a couple of American financial investment consortiums.
They give young Americans PT to develop them and sell them for millions of dollars. Win-win for everybody.
Meanwhile Huddersfield Town, the team that "proved" you could make it to the Premier League without a billionaire owner, are being rescued by "an unnamed American consortium".
That "0 shots" against Argentina in Copa America 2016 was a record. I dare anyone here to find a game anywhere where one side had 0 shots total, that is 0 on goal, 0 blocked, 0 off-frame.
Look at tonight's lineup. There's a lot of [players who got their start in MLS, and/or MLS Academies. Three of the starters were signed by Earnie Stewart when he was at Philadelphia. He just loaned a promising talent to aNYCFC of MLS. If Stewart didn't believe MLS was a quality league would he loan players to it? Surely he could have loaned Ledezma to Rangers or Celtic, or Groningen. Anyways....Has US Soccer Fired Berhalter yet? Maybe they should hire this Hudson full time?
Form your opinions all you want. Just don't take them seriously and think your objectively right, and be open to being wrong. Moreso, don't attack and denigrate those who don't share your soccer opinions.
Yet MLS fans act like the owners are some philanthropists and it my duty to support "my domestic league". Yet those leagues have a long history with systems that are good for the game. MLS is a monopoly that limits the growth outside its control. What? Americans own premier league teams? I was told by MLS fans that Americans would never own a team that could risk being relegated.
I remember the Mexico fans here having fun with that stat. “You can’t miss if you don’t shoot” or something along those lines. We weren’t winning that one even with a good scoring chance or two though, so it didn’t didn’t spoil that tournament too much imo.
They? A handful of clubs started doing this a few years ago because players started leaving for free. We had had to listen to owners, the commisioners, and fans whine how unfair it was and if it continued then they would just stop developing them. Their hand was forced to make the right economic decision that they should have realized was there over 20 years earlier. It was never their intention to help US soccer. They lucked into and would easily change course for just a few more bucks. They still don't systematically develop high end talent and aren't doing what they need to do so.
Why do you guys do this? Is just to be annoying? It doesn't help the league attract any new fans. It just turns people off. Also, if you can be so creative to credit MLS for developing someone like Weah, why did we have to spend two cycles actually playing shifty MLS players on the USMNT.
Nah.... I know enough about the game to know when someone is ********ing up player selection as bad as Berhalter did. The part about your opinion that is so stupid is Berhalter basically admitted he was wrong on all those players. Your opinion.shows a complete lack of knowledge or that you will just go along with anything. It is no longer subjective when difference in quality is as large as it was. When you throw in the frequency that it occurred and pattern that emerged, it is very clear what occurred.
There are many reasons to want players playing abroad in top leagues. The simplest is that they have experience playing at that level and know that their "talent" adjusts to that level. We see time and again MLS players hyped and then they can't raise their game. In other cases, it takes time for that adjustment. I dont know LD fans didn't learn that lesson years ago. His failure in Germany his second time was epic. His performance in the CL was described as the worst ever. He wilted under the pressure and looked like a scared little boy hiding on the field. A year later he put up a similar performance in a must win game a6 the WC. We all know he had the talent, but coasting in MLS didn't prepare him for the big stage.