Sebastian Lletget

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Jeff Wineberg, Jun 26, 2015.

  1. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

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    May 12, 2019
    I really don't get the "ignoring."

    De la Torre was called in by Berhalter about a year ago -- in the March 2021 friendlies -- when 99% of fans had basically forgotten the guy existed.

    He also has been called into a WCQ camp with very little experience with the national team.

    Has he gotten a ton of time? No. He has gotten two camps and Berhalter has chosen players to play over him for those games.

    Is it possible that Berhalter is wrong? Sure. Lletget and Roldan haven't been great for the US. Luca did make a couple of nice passes late in friendlies, including an assist ... to Sebastian Lletget (remember, that goal doesn't count because it was a Jamaica friendly we won 4-0).

    But still, I can totally get both "Luca de la Torre should play more going forward" and even "We should have played Luca de la Torre in the Panama game" even though there's a bit of hindsight there since the insertion of Lletget in his last game; the Honduras game was one of a number of actions that turned that game around.

    What I don't really get is "Berhalter ignored Luca de la Torre." This just reeks of the Musah thing, where Berhalter and staff, found Musah, recruited him, then weirdly get accused of slow-playing him simply because they didn't play him in two games in Nations League.

    Very few, if any, remembered that de la Torre was still in the pool, and I don't remember big calls for him back in March of 2021. He's not being ignored. He's just not getting a ton of minutes, whether because he's getting beat in camp or his skillset doesn't fit or because Berhalter is making a bad choice.

    All are possible. But ignored? No.
     
  2. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
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    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Musah is well ahead of Lletget now, no one can deny that... I hope you're right that Lletget is also clearly behind Busio... and hopefully if both Lletget and de la Torre are called in for these games, LDLT is the one who gets more minutes of the two... we shall see.
     
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  3. felloveranddidanadu

    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Dec 12, 2009
    Club:
    San Jose Frogs
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is my favorite kind of thread which we see all too much of these days, here and on twitter. How can this guy play? What the hell does the coach see in him?

    It conveniently ignores all the reasons why a guy would get onto the field. It conveniently ignores the fact that people are raging at their screens and have absolutely zero insight into the group, into the training, into the thinking of the coach and training and performance staff.

    Lleget has played poorly, sure, but has also done well in the moments he's been given and, if you look back at his game history for the USMNT, has scored some big goals and made some big plays. Oh, but please tell us more about why he's not even fit to play on your pub team.
     
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  4. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

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    Feb 13, 2010
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States
    Lletget update




    comments from reddit:

    "Becky G super fans" isn't in the FC Dallas Twitter bio anymore :(

    Apple TV+ literally building a whole ass show around them. They either have to scrub it or it’s going to get renewed for a season 2 on the back of this.

    imagine fumbling the bag that hard. loooooord.
    Nat’l team career in the shitter, bounced outta LA to Dallas and cheating on Becky G….. dude is having a midlife crisis at the ripe age of 30​
     
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  5. dspence2311

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    Oct 14, 2007
    When you back pass that much eventually it results in an own goal. It’s just math.
     
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  6. Bilgediver

    Bilgediver Member+

    LA Galaxy
    Oct 16, 2013
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    a lot of assumptions are being made here. unless I see the evidence, I don't believe tabloid crap.
     
  7. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
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    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  8. The Clientele

    The Clientele Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Jun 25, 2005
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ouch! Low blow!
     
  9. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The accuser is being coy. There's no evidence being provided. Until there is, it's pretty bad to make condemnations. Sad, but not surprising to see people taking out their animus toward him as a player, on his personal life. These are real people, not animations. Show some perspective.
     
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  10. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    A reality show based around those two? Who's running Apple TV?
     
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  11. The Clientele

    The Clientele Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Jun 25, 2005
    Portland, Oregon
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    Very important reminder. Thanks for getting this posted Duke of Soccer.
     
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  12. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
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    I’ll be honest I’m not really seeing the relevance here whether it’s true or not. Sebastian Lletget will likely never play for the USMNT again and even if he did I don’t know why his personal life matters at all.
     
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  13. NietzscheIsDead

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    NO WAR
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    May 31, 2019
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    Maybe Becky G will call the USSF and threaten to leak information if he doesn’t get a cap soon?
     
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  14. MPNumber9

    MPNumber9 Member+

    Oct 10, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    Also lost his sister in 2021.

    Weird this guy has garnered so much antipathy for...really wanting to represent the USA in a World Cup. How dare he?
     
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  15. NietzscheIsDead

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    NO WAR
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    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    He’s nothing but class.
     
  16. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

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    Feb 13, 2010
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    Since you're always crapping on Reyna does that mean you're not aware that he lost his brother?
     
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  17. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
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    Everyone who has lost a family member tragically should get a pass for shitty behavior. That's the way this works, it seems.
     
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  18. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
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    That’s a lot of rope given to a rumor from an anonymous insta user.

    Is that all it takes now?
     
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  19. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
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    FC Schalke 04
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    United States
    Are there rumors that Lletget has turned into a quality international soccer player?
     
  20. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

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    Feb 13, 2010
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    DaBoy loves DaSocialMedia

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    Yet behind this abundance, there is a reality I've hid from everyone around me. I have struggled with personal trauma and acute anxiety compounded by my own denial, pride and bad decisions.
    ...
    To Becky, you have been the light in my life, my strength, who has always shown me unconditional love. Instead of honoring that love every day I have done the opposite, hurting you, and disrespecting the one person I love more than anything. I am so sorry and know I have to do whatever it takes to earn back the trust and love you deserve.​
     
  21. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

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    Yeah, not sure how that relates to a 20-year old throwing toddler fits at the World Cup and then his mommy trying to ruin the rest of the tournament for his teammates.
     
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  22. an1310

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    Jun 2, 2003
    Atlanta, GA
    Lletget may not be good enough for the USMNT, but I'll bet there's a non-negligible number of BigSoccer members who would LOVE to have his life. Let's keep some perspective here.

    Personally, I hope he gets his affairs (no pun intended) in order and goes on to have a successful career and family life. And thanks to him for representing us on the field.
     
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  23. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    I don't get why these last few posts are News and Analysis worthy. I, for one, want to get away from a fan culture that hates on players. It's absolutely useless.
     
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  24. xbhaskarx

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    United States
    Well in that case don't do a search for "Reyna" on this board...
     
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  25. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    It's time to stop relitigating that issue as well. The team is ready to move on and wants him back, that's enough for me.
     
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