Argentines who play for other national teams: would they make Argentina's squad?

Discussion in 'Argentina: Selecciones Nacionales' started by argentine soccer fan, Feb 9, 2006.

  1. SupaMario

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    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I’m somewhat okay with this as long as he feels love for the shirt. Plus, it’s the father who is Argentina not some grandmother, which would make him 12.5% of something.

    Here is Garnacho in 2014. I remember he gave an interview talking about how he grew up more closely to his mother’s side and he still is. But hopefully he gets better and is called up to the next round of friendlies.
     
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  2. aerez

    aerez Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    They had 3 huge scandals since 2005. The recent 2012 one crippling the league. Like @indestructible mentioned the teams ruin youth system in Italy, but they do worse than that. There wasn't even a stable league to play in. The fall has been gigantic.
    And even now with the league stabalizing, you still have idiots like Juventus getting 15 point deduction scandals.

    You have to be a literal moron to destroy a cash cow system like a domestic European football league.

    The youth see this and say what's the point of playing in such a ********ed up mess. In other words you start destroying football culture.
     
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  3. indestructible

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    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I was listening to a podcast this morning and this is exactly what was said. If Mauro knew how his future would have panned out, he probably would jumped at the opportunity to play for Italy.
     
  4. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Back in the day, the Serie A limited how many foreigners could play for each team. Since that rule is practically gone, why wait for a youngster to come into his own when you can just buy a foreign talent.

    It’s kinda like super clubs who have crappy youth teams, they do not promote within, they just end up buying.
     
  5. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Yea, their 2006 winning team was full of top players. In recent Euro, they still had Bonucci and Chiellini at the tail end of their peak and they're a commanding presence at the back.

    After Euro we saw them struggling and the Finalissima was so one sided. It really could have ended 6-0 or 7-0. The 3-0 scoreline was too good for them. Euro qualifier isnt even hard since most of the group consisting two big teams plus bunch of minnows like San Marino & Belarus.

    "Since making their competitive debut, San Marino have competed in the qualifiers of every European Championship and World Cup, but have never won a match in either competition. They have only ever won once, defeating Liechtenstein 1–0 in a friendly match on 18 April 2004." ... Seriously, does Mbappe really thinks Euro qualifier is harder than Conmebol?
     
  6. Albiceleste2010

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    Watford
    Argentina
    Jun 5, 2010
    Watford
    Club:
    Watford FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    They do have a history. Even the US too with Rossi. I suppose they can call on a huge diaspora. Wherever you go round much of the world there are Italian descent communities.
     
  7. SupaMario

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    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina



    Pump the brakes.
     
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  8. indestructible

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    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Mancini is putting too much pressure on the kid already.
     
  9. SupaMario

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    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    #359 SupaMario, Mar 23, 2023
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2023
    I’m seeing that he could potentially start v England…?

    I’m going to watch the game, since my plan was to sit on my couch all day and watch sports.

    I don’t know, it is still really weird for me. He was somebody I thought could potentially make our national team.

    I guess we will wait and see how he does.

     
  10. indestructible

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    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Official lineup hasn't been announced, but it looks like he's going to get the start. Mancini REALLY believes that Retegui is the answer to all our problems. If Retegui comes in and scores a couple of goals, Mancini will look like a genius. If Retegui plays bad, Mancini will get absolutely blasted.

    I am very curious to see him play.
     
  11. SupaMario

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    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    To be fair, I do not think this one game should give you an answer of who he is or could possibly become. He’s got a knack for scoring goals but there is a lot of pressure.

    In the last couple of games, he was quiet for Tigre, where we’ve gone on a bad spell of losses. It’s not that he, himself played bad, the team has just been out of sync.

    If he gets the service he needs, he should do well. But again, he should not be crucified if he has a quiet outing.
    But I’m sure if he goes out and scores a goal, the Italian clubs will be out there throwing money his way. Hell, some English club will also be tempted.
     
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  12. aerez

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    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Mancini is really banking on this guy. It would be funny he gets a hatrick versus England. He'll be the talk of English press.

     
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  13. indestructible

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    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Oh of course I know that we're not going to get the full picture of the player in one game. But this is Mancini's error. This is pressure that is being thrown on him. I wish him the best and I hope he does well for him and us. The fans will have more patience with Retegui. But patience is starting to run thin for Mancini.
     
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  14. aerez

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    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    There was a point and uproar where no foreigners were allowed in the Italian league, I think it was after 1960. Some big thing happened I can't remember what it was. In the 80's they slowly started allowing more foreign talent in again, as the rules relaxed.
     
  15. SupaMario

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    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
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    :ROFLMAO:
     
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  16. Burr

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    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good lord no wonder he accepted the call up they promised him the world and are calling him Batistuta lol
     
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  17. SupaMario

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    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    #367 SupaMario, Mar 24, 2023
    Last edited: Mar 24, 2023
    And Tigre right now is going to like this…
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    They do want 25 ME for him, and they could probably get him(Even though half of that goes to Boca and you’re welcome :ROFLMAO:).


    However, Scaloni needs to be on high alert. Mancini saw that this could potentially work and he’ll continue to call up other players. I wouldn’t be surprised if they go after Prestianni.
     
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  18. SupaMario

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    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    The Tanos are going to try and tempt Prestianni.

     
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  19. Albiceleste2010

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    Watford
    Argentina
    Jun 5, 2010
    Watford
    Club:
    Watford FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Unbelievable. Hands off. Just tell Leo to get on the blower to Gianluca. AFA should file a complaint to FIFA. It's like clubs soliciting players to move.
     
  20. aerez

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    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  21. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    FIFA needs to fix this issue. To play for a national team, it should be either by birth or a parent. Not having some grandmother or great-grandmother. International Citizenship could also be gained if a player has lived in the country for a certain number of years

    But yes, they are moving like a club team right now. They are probably promising them a move to a Serie A side.

    Uruguay and Brasil will also be on their list. They could potentially have a bunch of mercenaries playing for them, which is quite sad. I will root for them in World Cup's if we are no longer in contention.

    But, I do not think there is a major threat since he is a lot closer to the team than Retegui. He's already been around the senior side.
     
  22. aerez

    aerez Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Bruno Zappelli played really well according to reports in a 2-0 win in the u21 friendly.
     
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  23. aerez

    aerez Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    At the very least put a minimum age of 21. Going for under 17 talent is pathetic.
     
  24. Albiceleste2010

    Albiceleste2010 Member+

    Watford
    Argentina
    Jun 5, 2010
    Watford
    Club:
    Watford FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Is this what Italy will be doing from now on. Trying to nab anyone promising from the Primera ? Racing are looking at Zapelli. What are Belgrano and Zapelli looking at ?
     
  25. Albiceleste2010

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    Watford
    Argentina
    Jun 5, 2010
    Watford
    Club:
    Watford FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I sincerely hope so SM. It's like the thirties all over again. Recruiting players to fill the gaps in their national side and winning a World Cup as a result as well.
     
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