Rebuilding The Azzurri for Euro 2024 and beyond

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  1. Vieri's Left Foot

    Roma
    Italy
    Jun 8, 2022
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Acerbi had it out for Italy. I've never seen a CB dribble up the field relatively unmarked and then pass to absolutely nobody, immediately putting his own team into chaos.
     
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  2. Matt E6

    Matt E6 Member

    AC Milan
    United States
    Apr 5, 2022
    Dear God, you're not one of those, are you?
     
  3. Matt E6

    Matt E6 Member

    AC Milan
    United States
    Apr 5, 2022
    I was holding my breath each time. :ROFLMAO:
     
  4. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Hope not
     
  5. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    The FIGC are not going to sack Mancini. So for better or worse he needs to figure it out. But I really fear he is too far gone. Ever since we got bounced from the WC qualifiers, he has lost his mind. On OCW sport they're theorizing if he uses tombola to make decisions. He said he was going to relaunch with youngsters after the finalissima, and today it was more or less the same core that won us the Euros. This coming from the coach that called up the most Italian players in history. What has he learned? The younger players that need to be playing are in the U21s or on the bench. He has been crying that we have striker problem, but like today we see there are holes everywhere.

    The most two in form Italian mids right now are Fagioli and Frattesi. Why weren't they there?

    The most two inform Italian wingers are Zaccagni and Orsolini. Why are they at home? How is he so sure Grifo is better than both of them?

    Bonucci is not even the guy at Juve anymore. Is not time to show him the door? Baschirotto, Casale, Mancini even Gatti are good Italian CB's. Why Acerbi if you're going to play with 4 men at the back?

    Jorginho needs to go. Verratti too. Verratti needs to be reimagined as something else. He cannot be a mezzala. He doesn't have the speed. He cannot even protect the ball anymore. OUT.

    I can go on and on. But Mancini is making me crazy. At this point I'll even take Ranieri coaching Italy. At least he'll be a guy with clear idea. Mancini is everywhere
     
  6. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
  7. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
  8. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    If Mancini doesn’t collect 3 points V Malta. He needs to quit or be fired. If Gravina doesn’t pull the trigger, CONI need to step in and clean house again
     
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  9. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    There are still 7 games left to be played.

    I doubt war torn Ukraine will mange a few wins .

    Same goes for Malta.

    Unless North Macedonia has another miracle from Aleksandar Trajkovski, Italy should be qualify.
     
  10. Azzurrifan87

    Azzurrifan87 Member

    Mar 29, 2015
    #2385 Azzurrifan87, Mar 23, 2023
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2023
    My God he sucks. I could lay a turd in the middle of the pitch and get more out of it than Jorginho.

    But noone should be surprised. FIGC zero accountability culture has lead to that. and Mancini now touting look at the second half! what,so you can play one of the most garbage first halves in Nazionale history and then one shot on target in the second half changes everything? Best if we fail to qualify and get rid of this guy. He lost his mind after the euro win.

    The of course there's Pengland. They can't score unless they flap around like headless chickens in the penalty box and force the ball in or win a freak penalty. They played against a garbage lineup coached by an a$$clown and Italia still scored the most beautiful goal of the game. Even when Pengland beat us they are even a bigger joke than when they lose. The whole field should have just been covered in clown noses.
     
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  11. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    You're acting like we qualified for the last WC in convincing fashion
     
  12. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Almost impossible to not qualify
     
  13. Vieri's Left Foot

    Roma
    Italy
    Jun 8, 2022
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Mancini accepts your challenge
     
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  14. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    There's just no way unless they lose to malta. Then he must go, get pirlo or someone younger. Maybe even gattuso.
     
  15. 'Uaglio

    'Uaglio Member+

    Jun 8, 2004
    NYC
    Both of England's goals came off TERRIBLE corners. The corners were so poorly taken and the ball floated up in the air. On the first one McGuire was surrounding by 3 Italians and they all missed it....Acerbi looked like he couldn't get 2 inches off the ground. SHAMEFUL.

    On the penalty, I'm not sure what the D was doing. DiLorenzo normally is better in the air than that, but he muffed that up...even though I'm still not sure how that is a PK.

    Mancini need to figure out central defense IMMEDIATELY.
     
  16. Matt E6

    Matt E6 Member

    AC Milan
    United States
    Apr 5, 2022
    Haha, ok listen I know this is an important moment for you. Enjoy it.
     
  17. Matt E6

    Matt E6 Member

    AC Milan
    United States
    Apr 5, 2022
    His benefit of doubt period has ended.
    I'd even be in favor of bringing Conte back to stabilize this team. He liked a big target and small poacher playing between the target line in his first stint and can at least keep them respectable until and hopefully Ancelotti is ready to take over in two years time. Mancini is stuck in the past.
     
  18. Matt E6

    Matt E6 Member

    AC Milan
    United States
    Apr 5, 2022
    England played a very old school Italian game with little class, period. As bad as Italy was in the first half, in the second half the time wasting tactics and the amount of times an English player cleared into open field was embarrassing, just admit it. The time wasting started at the 30th minute. How sad is that? The penally call completely non existent. That was off Kane 100%

    The only positive take home was for as bad as Italy played they still managed to do enough to earn a tie, even with Jorginho doing his best to lay one off for Grealish who had some humility kicking it wide.
     
  19. azzurri06

    azzurri06 Member

    Apr 4, 2007
    san francisco
    I thought Bellingham played well and showed some talent & good strength. I typically find myself in the camp of Rossonero and am rather underwhelmed with the English mids that are deemed gods by the football world.

    We have enough good players to choose from. Gotta get the backline sorted out and find the right fits in attack. I have been consistent in saying that I find Berardi to shrink away when he puts the blue shirt on. Ample quality in our midfielders, but we have to play the right players. Today was an excellent example of choosing the wrong mix of players.

    In the short time they were on together, I saw glimpses of real desire for Gnoto and Spina to link up on the left side and were very positive in their play. I think that partnership is worth building on. Their final touches were both off tonight but they had the right ideas together
     
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  20. azzurri06

    azzurri06 Member

    Apr 4, 2007
    san francisco
    During the game I saw a Kane handball. I watched again tonight and saw it deflected off of DiLo's arm into Kane's arm.
     
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  21. Matt E6

    Matt E6 Member

    AC Milan
    United States
    Apr 5, 2022
    #2396 Matt E6, Mar 24, 2023
    Last edited: Mar 24, 2023
    Like Kane and Shaw faking injury, and all the time wasting?

    Perfect summary. I want to add that with or without Bonucci, this team needs to play 3 CB's. The quality and consistency is just not there. Not with Bastoni, Baschirotto, Okali or any of the others. If Mancini continues then it's a gven that Ascerbi and Bonucci will continue to be fielded and then with maybe one of the other three or whatever other CB is in form, add Romagnoli to that list.
     
  22. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
     
  23. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    How about when Kane was time wasting... realized he was outside the pitch.. so he started to crawl back in the field so that more time could be wasted.

    Kane should give Vince McMahon a call... he "sells" better than anyone in the world.
     
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  24. johnny6

    johnny6 Member+

    AC Milan
    Italy
    Jun 29, 2011
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I can't believe there was only 5 minutes of extra time after all that time wasting, not that it matters because we wouldn't have done anything anyway.

    Mancini should have done the right thing and stepped down after failing to qualify for the WC. I said it a couple of days ago that Conte would be perfect for Italy, thank you Mancini for the cup but it's time to go.
     
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  25. Mean Machine

    Mean Machine Member+

    May 23, 2018
    Agree 100%! Mancini is not a bad manager but his tactics and philosophy just do not suit our team. In all honesty, I didn’t feel they suited us well in the Euros but at least we did have Insigne which was a huge help at the time.
     

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