Real Monarchs Running Thread

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  1. RSLer

    RSLer Member+

    Sep 24, 2008
    Stansbury Park, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it’s fair to expect contributions from Rubio first, and Luna to a lesser extent. I don’t expect goals from Holt. Do you have any idea of how many senior team players were on the Quakes 2 roster? If there were several it would modify my expectations a lot.
     
  2. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would expect / hope Rubio would be scoring in those games
    Luna isn't a goal scorer, but I'd expect him to be dominant in play
    Holt shouldn't be part of a defense giving up 3 goals... that's scary
     
  3. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Exactly. Thanks for putting it clearly and succinctly.
     
  4. irondeepbicycle

    irondeepbicycle Member+

    Real Salt Lake
    United States
    Jul 31, 2017
  5. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    https://www.rsl.com/monarchs/news/real-monarchs-announce-2023-preseason-roster

    Pre-season roster is announced.

    17 players listed, 9 are officially on the roster this year. I imagine several players with RSL right now will be getting significant minutes with the Monarchs, 3 of them being the non-GA draft picks. Guys like Rivera, Benitez, Wellings and maybe Kei. I thought he'd see some not insignificant minutes with RSL, but then they drafted a few forwards.
     
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  7. RSLer

    RSLer Member+

    Sep 24, 2008
    Stansbury Park, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This will be interesting to follow. Will it be as good as it appears to be or will teams/players find some way to exploit it?

     
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  8. KendaReal

    KendaReal Member+

    May 3, 2010
    Taylorsville, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They should hire a bunch of old boxing refs to jump in and do a 10 count.
     
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  9. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I do like the concept of rules getting tested in MLS Next PRO. A lot of them are common sense or address issues fans have. They'll be able to tell real quick if it's a good universal rule or not without impacting significant matches.

    What about the playoff format? I think that could be lots of fun/drama.

    The Leagues Cup tournament giving 2 points for a PK win was tested out last year in MLSNP.

    I may have to watch the Monarchs this year. Curious to see how much Apple invests in those broadcasts.
     
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  10. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    I'm a huge advocate of a hockey sin bin, like they have in indoor soccer. You can still get cards for really bad stuff, but the tactical fouls for pulling a shirt on a breakaway gets you 5minutes a man down seems like a much better consequence.
     
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  11. RSLer

    RSLer Member+

    Sep 24, 2008
    Stansbury Park, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It would really help curtail persistent infringement if those types of fouls are included. In turn, the games should become more open and fun to watch.
     
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  12. DrownedElf

    DrownedElf Member+

    Jul 5, 2010
    Ogden
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I always thought that whenever the medical staff enters the field, the player should be forced to sit out for x minutes. Two maybe? My thought is if you're actually hurt enough for them to come out, then the time is used to evaluate the player. Trying to time waste? Now you're a man down for a bit.
     
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  13. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Some really interesting new rules in play in MLS Next Pro for this season. One is that a red card earned in a game against the Monarchs will be served not in the subsequent game but in the next game against the Monarchs (assuming there is one; if not, it's the next week still). Another is that when it comes time for the postseason, top teams choose their opponents:

    NEW PLAYOFFS FORMAT
    The 2023 season will feature an expanded playoffs format that includes a pick-your-opponent element in the first two rounds.

    Within each conference, the two division champions and the five clubs with the next highest points (seven clubs total) will advance to the 2023 MLS NEXT Pro Playoffs. The Playoffs will consist of three rounds followed by MLS NEXT Pro Cup, taking place over four consecutive weeks beginning the weekend of September 29.

    The club with the most regular season points in each conference (#1 seed) will earn a first-round bye, automatically advancing to the Conference Semifinals.

    Conference Quarterfinals:

    • The next two teams with the most points in each conference (#2 and #3 seeds) will choose their opponent and host their match (one of two teams must be the other division champion)
    • The two remaining teams that are not selected will play each other, with the higher seeded team hosting
    Conference Semifinals:

    • The team with the most overall points in the conference (#1 seed) will choose its opponent from the remaining two lowest seeded teams and host the match
    • The second highest seed will host the remaining team
     
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  14. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Choosing is a great idea, because then they can figure in match ups and travel.
    It's also a great way to build in some rivalries.

    Next, they need to implement the "Sin Bin." NEXT would be a great venue to try this out.
     
  15. DrownedElf

    DrownedElf Member+

    Jul 5, 2010
    Ogden
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I like the choose your opponent because some teams just seem to have your number, and potentially avoiding that is good.
     
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  16. RSLer

    RSLer Member+

    Sep 24, 2008
    Stansbury Park, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There’s also the fan draw aspect, such as, “Uh ya, we choose that team with Messi to come play at our place”. This is probably a lesser consideration though.
     
  17. goobx1

    goobx1 Member+

    Jul 9, 2007
    Salt Lake
    I think that it will be interesting to see how that plays out over time on the picking your opponent. My guess it there will be a few more upsets because by picking your opponent you're creating extra motivation for the team you pick. Like, "oh, you think you can beat us? Well we'll show you."

    Might create more intensity right off the bat.
     
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  18. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    First game of the season is tomorrow. What are the expectations? Who will be in the lineup? No Beavers, correct?
     
  19. goobx1

    goobx1 Member+

    Jul 9, 2007
    Salt Lake
    Thats what she said?


    Boo. I’ll let myself out.
     
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  20. irondeepbicycle

    irondeepbicycle Member+

    Real Salt Lake
    United States
    Jul 31, 2017
    First Monarchs lineup of the year.



    Really young lineup. Two 07s from the academy (Rivera and Gozo), two 06s (Kelly and Amparo), and an 05 (Williams). Nigro (00) and Mondi (98) are the vets. Alba is an 04 we signed from Panama who is a center back I think. Dillon is an 03 who left college early to join us (you can circumvent the Superdraft if you sign someone to your MLSNP affiliate first).

    Jarvie has committed to Stanford but as far as I can tell he hasn't signed with the Monarchs, meaning he's still NCAA eligible. I guess he's keeping his options open. I do not know who "Nobles" is and that's an impossible name to Google for a club that also has the word "Monarchs" in it.

    Axel Kei is injured apparently. Not sure why Wellings is on the bench and I'm not sure where Bikyeombe is. The guys to watch in this lineup are probably Rivera and Gozo - especially to see where Rivera is playing (LB or CB).
     
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  21. irondeepbicycle

    irondeepbicycle Member+

    Real Salt Lake
    United States
    Jul 31, 2017
    Nobles appears to be Nicholas Nobles, another 07 from the academy. That's three 07s and two 06s from the academy in the lineup. Nobles was poached from Chicago's academy.

    Hard to tell exactly what we're doing but it looks almost like a 3-4-3 with Nobles as the central CB.
     
  22. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I coached a team of 2007 aged kids for a bit
    That Gozo kid is the real deal. Really hope he continues on the trajectory he is on
     
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  23. irondeepbicycle

    irondeepbicycle Member+

    Real Salt Lake
    United States
    Jul 31, 2017
    You can definitely see Tony Beltran's influence in the amount of talent we have at the younger age groups. It's crazy that we're starting three 07s, and our best 07 (Kei) is injured. We could start four 07s and three 06s and still compete with teams at this level.

    They're pretty much all at least a year away from contributing to the first team but we have an absurd amount of talent in the 06-08 range.
     
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  24. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anybody know if Jamison is a good coach? I don't get to games, and I know results don't matter much so I don't judged based on that.
     
  25. irondeepbicycle

    irondeepbicycle Member+

    Real Salt Lake
    United States
    Jul 31, 2017
    A Zack Farnsworth sighting with the Monarchs tonight!



    He was once a pretty touted prospect but I'd mostly written him off as a pro prospect - at this point he's 21 with barely any pro appearances.

    I don't have much confidence that the injuries will suddenly be behind him, but if they are he's still a really talented defender.
     
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