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Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Stuart95, Mar 22, 2023.

  1. Stuart95

    Stuart95 Member+

    Mar 11, 2012
    NoVA
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    Colorado Rapids
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    United States
    Today's name the badge (name the league):
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  2. Brian in Boston

    Brian in Boston Member+

    Jun 17, 2004
    MA & CA, USA
    Beautiful badge. Accra Hearts of Oak play in the Ghana Premier League.
     
  3. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
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    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Accra is in Ghana, so whatever their top league is called.
     
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  4. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
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  5. AeroNaught

    AeroNaught Member+

    Atlanta United
    Feb 14, 2007
    Birmingham, AL
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe they're negotiating with the owner of the Miami Dolphins to use their stadium if he comes?
     
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  6. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I think they will have because they won't have enough space in Ft. Lauderdale.

    Only thing is, I hope they won't have to play on gridirons as that won’t look good on TV.
     
  7. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why would you do that? The push would be season ticket holders getting first crack at season tickets for the new stadium. It would be far better to have a sold out DRV PNK Stadium with a with list for the future.
     
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  8. Stuart95

    Stuart95 Member+

    Mar 11, 2012
    NoVA
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    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Winner, winner! One the best badges and coolest names in world football.
     
  9. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    They will make more money if they play in Hard Rock Stadium and would sell almost 50k more tickets.

    Why wouldn't they want that revenue?
     
  10. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Would they? In the past its been reported that the cost to rent a bigger stadium for games largely offsets the added revenue. Obviously every case is different, but don't assume that just because they would sell more tickets they would make more money.
     
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  11. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #12 falvo, Mar 22, 2023
    Last edited: Mar 22, 2023
    Even if they profit from 1/2 of every $30.00 ticket sold, (and I believe it will be way more than that) if you sell 50k tickets, that is $750k a game.

    Multiply this by 10 possible home (including playoff) games, that would amount to almost $8 million dollars.

    Not including DP salaries, that figure will cover the bulk of an entire roster for almost two seasons , so why would they pass on that?

    I doubt the club would want to throw away that revenue.
     
  12. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Also I don't think MLS is eager to rent a stadium from an owner who has an active lawsuit against the USSF trying to stage foreign league games in the US.
     
  13. WarrenWallace

    WarrenWallace Member

    Mar 12, 1999
    Beer and Cheese
    Good point on maybe not wanting to rent from Stephen Ross.

    Also have to consider the money that Miami receives for parking and concessions at their Fort Lauderdale stadium. Hard Rock Stadium may just keep all that money for themselves.

    For me, I could see renting the stadium most likely only once and then playing the rest of the games at their normal stadium. Especially when Miami is to be building their own stadium in the next year (fingers crossed) and that stadium being capped in size at 25k. Get fans used to having to buy season tickets or multi-game tickets instead of just assuming can show up the day of the game.
     
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  14. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Beckham didn't want to play at Buck Shaw .

    I remember Quakes president Dave Kaval saying Becks refused to play there and I think Henry said the same thing so why would Messi want to play at 18,000 seat DRV PNK/Lockhart?
     
  15. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, if he doesn't want to play there, he won't sign. I think that solves it.
     
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  16. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Welcome to MLS. This isn't the David Beckham era MLS and that extra revenue isn't exactly needed. They are building a stadium and why would they play at a stadium that they wouldn't play in to get the team five years ago? The whole point of building in Miami because the football stadium was not acceptable. They still have a few hurdles to get past to get shovels in the ground they aren't changing now with so much still on the line. Plus you'll still be paying bills for DRV PNK at the same time.
     
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  17. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #18 falvo, Mar 22, 2023
    Last edited: Mar 22, 2023
    Ok but that is your reasoning not the leagues or the club.

    No one knows what Messi wants or will do.

    If Messi comes this summer, he will be over 36 years of age and will play less than half of a season so his time is limited.

    By the time Miami builds a stadium (which is still an unknown when that will be) , Messi would be pushing 40 and retired.

    Don Garber said just last week he would bend and change rules to sign Messi so of course they will do anything to accommodate and please him.
     
  18. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So the Miami Commission would be able to say, well it doesn't look like you need the new stadium because the players you sign won't play in it. No reason to sign him with that logic if you are taking the short term money gain and missing out on the revenue six/seven years from now playing in Miami proper with the revenue under their control.
     
  19. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Don Garber specifically said last week he will do anything to sign Messi.

    I’m sure he wouldn’t have said it if he did t mean it.

    Anyway ,I still don’t believe Messi will want to play in front of 18k fans when he is used to playing in front of 50,000+.
     
  20. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
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    United States
    Yea i don't think be said be would do anything more like they would be flexible. This was the deal Beckham got and they didn't think if was possible when be got it.
    (Beckham) had to play in the league for five years, (and) at the time he came in, Toronto bought (the 13th MLS expansion spot) for $10 million,” Garber said. “And we basically said if you stay in the league long enough, and we have 20 teams in five years, and you have to play for that period of time, we’ll give you an option for $25million. And by the way, (the expansion team) can’t be in New York. You’ve got to pick a team, you’ve got to build a stadium.
    They still have to build that stadium and if Messi can't play in a small stadium I would think he's not coming but i seriously don't think that's in his list.
     
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  21. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
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    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are all stadiums in France and Spain over 18K seats?
     
  22. BassNFool

    BassNFool Member

    Jun 29, 2005
    Virginia
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The median capacity of an MLS stadium is 22000 so of your correct, he wouldn't want to play in over half of the MLS stadiums due to capacity. The largest stadiums have artificial turf. He probably wouldn't want to play at them either. If you are correct, MLS isn't a good choice for him
     
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  23. BassNFool

    BassNFool Member

    Jun 29, 2005
    Virginia
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just checked the median stadium capacity for ligue 1 is 22000.
     
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  24. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #25 falvo, Mar 23, 2023
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2023


    Paris Saint-Germain F.C. Parc des Princes has a capacity of 47,929.

    Their average home league attendance this season is 46,000.

    That's almost 3 times more than what Ft. Lauderdale has to offer.

    For me anyway, I like DRV PNK and think it’s a great place to play.

    If it were up to me, I actually can care less if Messi comes or not.

    As a matter of fact, I hope he doesn’t because I’m sick of seeing Over 36’s coming to get their last paycheck.

    If they do in fact sign him though, I still think he is going to want to play in a bigger stadium.

    Also, knowing European based players as I do, many hate playing on turf.

    I just herd an interview in Italy on why Gonzalo Higuain quit before he was 35 and one reason was because he didn't like playing on turf or the traveling.

    Messi will probably end up thinking the same way.
     
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