2022-23 Hot Seat

Discussion in 'Women's College' started by Collegewhispers, May 18, 2022.

  1. WSOCFan

    WSOCFan Member

    Arsenal
    Brazil
    Feb 26, 2023
    Who else is in trouble before the 2023 season is underway? Eddie K, do you know of any potential changes?
     
  2. Bannedagain

    Bannedagain Member

    Villareal
    Oct 24, 2021

    Graham Potter
     
  3. Eddie K

    Eddie K Member+

    May 5, 2007
    Berhalter?
    The #PotterOut stuff online is pretty brutal. Is the money and potential fame or success really worth that abuse? Always said that no one gets into coaching to be universally loved. Somewhere around half the people out there (your rivals) will always hate you. Sometimes they are right in your town since most big cities have a crosstown rival. Sometimes your own fans are not that nice. I just saw a video of NBA star Russell Westbrook talking about his kids getting verbal abuse in school when he recently changed LA teams.
    And it does happen at US colleges. How are the UNC fans going to behave when their MBB team doesn't get in the tournament, after being in the Final 1 year ago?? You know the Dookies will be reminding them...

    For the not so super rich coaches in college women's soccer, maybe not quite as much pressure but when a coach is trying to earn that contract renewal, or rebuild a down program, it can get ugly.
    Sudden or even consistent roster turnover, changing out the assistants, weakening the schedule to find some wins, super promotion of any positive thing the team does off the field. The online rant from ticked-off parents or alumni. There are some signs...

    Most of the D1 folks around me are pretty new or pretty settled in 2023 but you never know when life happens. I am seeing lots of turnover at the D2 and 3 level and I think very many schools are realizing now or about to realize a real budget crunch as the covid money dries up amid enrollment shortfalls. Going to be ugly lots of 'smaller' places...
     
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  4. Red Stars

    Red Stars Member

    PSG
    Serbia
    May 19, 2022
    #1029 Red Stars, Mar 2, 2023
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2023
    I'm still pretty surprised no Power 5 jobs were turned over this year. Have to imagine some will happen next year and we are now far enough away from the covid season so no more excuses from that. Hottest P5 jobs as I can see would be Boston College and Kansas State.
     
  5. Wildcatter

    Wildcatter Member

    Sep 9, 2018
    Kansas state just signed a contract extension. He is safe
     
  6. Red Stars

    Red Stars Member

    PSG
    Serbia
    May 19, 2022
    Thanks Wildcatter, just saw the release https://www.kstatesports.com/news/2022/11/30/soccer-k-state-extends-dibbini-through-2026-season.aspx. I understand he started a new program, but thought would have expected more by this point. The release "brags" about most season wins of 6 and making the Big 12 tournament with a 2-5-2 record. Guess they're happy with that and congrats to him with a 4-year extension.

    Would say Boston College is the hottest P5 job then. Once a proud program that went 14-5-1 in 2018 with a 28 RPI with a number of successful seasons before the coaching change for 2019. Since then have gone 23-36-9 overall and just 4-31-3 in the ACC. And lost a lot of clout with clubs in the New England area and the program will continue struggle if they don't have those regional connections.
     
  7. LimestoneKid

    LimestoneKid Member

    Edmonton Drillers
    Canada
    Dec 22, 2022
    Gene Taylor is a good egg.
     
  8. sokarcrazy

    sokarcrazy Member

    Dec 19, 2005
    How about a list of coaches that are nearing retirement. I would think a few of the power 5 are.

    UNC
    Nebraska
    Illinois
     
  9. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not that they necessarily are likely near-term retirees, but here is a list of coaches who have been at their schools 25 years or more:

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  10. Underminer

    Underminer Member

    Spurs
    England
    Dec 29, 2022
    An omission I thought of…Presbyterian’s coach has been there 34 years… since 1989.
     
  11. Eddie K

    Eddie K Member+

    May 5, 2007
    Swanson? Baker? Blankenship? Robbie Church? Waldrum?

    Interesting to look at the win% sort and compare the lists. The only D1 coach above Dorrance is Aozaoa at UCLA which is kinda funny.

    After AD, you see Ratcliffe, Rockwood, Waldrum, Fabiano, Blankenship, Guerrieri, Jerry Smith, Swanson, Izzo-Brown.

    I guess the point here is any of them could just call it and all are hall of fame coaches.

    Maybe someone should start a "legends" thread!
     
  12. Red Stars

    Red Stars Member

    PSG
    Serbia
    May 19, 2022
    Would have to think Jerry Smith is getting close to retirement.
     
  13. Soccerhunter

    Soccerhunter Member+

    Sep 12, 2009
    Small correction. Anson began coaching the UNC women's team when it was awarded varsity status in 1979. At that time he was also the head coach of the UNC men's varsity team (starting in 1976.) So his college head coaching experience spans 47 years so far. (The 1982 date is when the NCAA took over the AIAW soccer national women's tournament.)
     
  14. Sockers1

    Sockers1 Member

    Nov 7, 2016
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    And if you dig deeper the only two on this list to never have a losing season: AD/UNC, JH/NT
     
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  15. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1040 cpthomas, Mar 3, 2023
    Last edited: Mar 3, 2023
    Yes. The list is time in NCAA Division I. I have Purcell at Presbyterian with less time since they did not join Division I until 2007. But, he indeed has been there for 34 years.
     
  16. ThePonchat

    ThePonchat Member+

    #ProRelForUSA
    United States
    Jan 10, 2013
    I've Been Everywhere Man
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    OPEN:
    Indiana State (12/2)
    Alcorn State (1/10)
    Prairie View A&M (2/?)


    FILLED:
    Delaware - Kelly Lawrence (Penn State assistant; 10/24-11/14)
    Tulsa - Jim Rhein (Tulsa interim for 2 years!)
    Nevada - Vanessa Valentine (Cal assistant;11/7-11/22)
    South Carolina State - Liz-Amanda Brown (interim; 9/24-12/6)
    Chicago State - Aulani Fernandez (interim; 7/1-12/6)
    Cincinnati - Erica Demers (UAB head; 11/14-12/7)
    Northern Arizona - Alan Berrios (NAU associate head; 10/7 - admin leave; 11/18-12/7)
    UTEP - Gibbs Keeton (Texas Tech associate head; 11/1-12/7)
    Jacksonville State - Sean Fraser (Louisiana Monroe head; 10/24-12/7)
    UMBC - Rick Stainton (Georgetown assistant; 10/17-12/14)
    Richmond - Adam Denton (Davidson head; 10/27-12/15)
    Dartmouth - Taylor Schram (Boston College assistant; 11/6-12/15)
    Toledo - Mark Batman (Ohio Northern head - 10/28-12/19)
    Coastal Carolina - Jo Chubb (Arizona State assistant; 10/28-12/20)
    Incarnate Word - Jake Plant (Eastern Illinois head; 8/1-12/20)
    Abilene Christian - Stephen Salas (Hardin-Simmons associate head; 10/31-12/20)
    Belmont - Kelsey Fenix (Trevecca Nazarene head; 11/11-12/22)
    Troy - Stuart Gore (Northwestern State head; 10/31-1/4)
    St. Bonaventure - Donny George (Niagara assistant; 11/1-1/5)
    Louisiana Monroe - Will Roberts (ULM Assistant, 11/22- 1/12)
    Mississippi Valley State - Kayleigh Lambrechts (John Melvin head; 12/15-1-13)
    Marist - Nicole Pacapelli (Binghamton assistant; 12/2-1/17)
    UAB - Lisa Mann (West Virginia State head; 12/7-1/18)
    Davidson - Riley Piechnick (Bucknell associate head; 12/15-2/9)
    Eastern Illinois - Dirk Bennett (EIU assistant; 12/16-2/10)
    Alabama A&M - Prince Borde (Jacksonville assistant; 12/2-2/22)
    Northwestern State - Ian Brophy (Mount Olive head; 1/4-2/23)



    Just bumping this to the most recent on the thread. Trying to channel some energy to some deadbeat admins who cannot hire in a timely manner. Men's side is now completed (for now) as it took one forever to hire.
     
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  17. Sledhead

    Sledhead Member

    Atalanta
    United States
    Jul 14, 2019
    Final three, on campus interviews for ISU are next week. Not sure what that means in times of a start date, but the process is still trudging along towards the finish line.
     
  18. WSOCFan

    WSOCFan Member

    Arsenal
    Brazil
    Feb 26, 2023
  19. Sledhead

    Sledhead Member

    Atalanta
    United States
    Jul 14, 2019
    I believe the AC is interviewing in one of the 3 spots, but I would be shocked if ISU went that direction. Too many years with the previous regime, and no HC experience. The names I heard for the other two spots haven't been confirmed, more of a I heard so and so was one of the three, so I am not going to post them here and cause issues for them in their current spots. I was surprised when I heard two current MVC head coaches were among the Zoom interviews. No clue if one or both of them were invited on campus for this final round. Only one more week of speculation, I guess!
     
  20. Collegewhispers

    Collegewhispers Member+

    Oct 27, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I don’t know why Indiana state even made a coaching change they clearly don’t care about women’s soccer. Halfway through spring and still no new coach. No care whatsoever.
     
  21. oneofnine

    oneofnine Member

    Nov 21, 2011
    I appreciate the consideration of BigSoccer posters who don't mention specific names of candidates for other jobs. Especially when they don't want to impact the job/position a candidate currently holds.

    I must say this tho - no AD's read this forum nor pay attention to it. And other than people trolling this site out of curiosity, I think we overstate the importance of this forum if we think it impacts the college soccer world, or specific programs.
     
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  22. Sledhead

    Sledhead Member

    Atalanta
    United States
    Jul 14, 2019
    ISU is supposed to make their offer today. Not sure if that means they will announce today or if that will take a few days for the official announcement.
     
  23. supercell

    supercell New Member

    Aug 19, 2021
    What is a typical head coach contract duration in division I womens soccer? Would you expect an experienced coach to get a longer term? Do schools with smaller budgets try to limit the term to keep the "dead money" expense down?
     
  24. ThePonchat

    ThePonchat Member+

    #ProRelForUSA
    United States
    Jan 10, 2013
    I've Been Everywhere Man
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A lot of contracts are going for 3-5 years. Depends on the coach and more respected or higher credentials/CV, that contract would look at 5 years. Schools vary, obviously, but coaches will fight for that 5-year because they know how much of a project some places can be AND it gives them some reassurances/consistency.
     
  25. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not directly on point, but related:

    The average tenure of head coaches at their current schools is 7.4 years.

    The median is 5 years, meaning at least half the coaches have been at their current schools 5 years or less.

    There have been 247 head coach positions that have turned over in the last 6 years. Some of these are the same school having multiple turn overs.
     
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