Bundesliga 2022/23 - 27 EURO finalists play in the best league in Europe

Discussion in 'Germany Mädels: NT and Frauen-Bundesliga' started by Lohmann, Aug 1, 2022.

  1. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    here's an couple of full games,, probably need to be watched right away as some of his youtuber's vids get delated. The HOF players needing to get use to Lerch's heavy emphasis of one touch soccer, but at least a bit more consistancy then previous club versions, Interm coach Rossler ends witrh an perfect 4-0 record plus upset of the year. Krumbiegel beginning to really shine lately

    need to still watch this one

    an sprain is an sprain, so most likely off for about an month
     
  2. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Why not add an 5th winger? Endermann leaves Essen for Wolfsburg. I predict another thrilling down to the wire season for next year, lol
     
  3. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    oh sorry, Lohmann, I know you wanted to make it an more official post, but just freaking pissed off here that there’s no other club out there that wants.to step up financially other than Wolfsburg. So now, Endermann arguably this year’s the most exciting player in the Bundesliga, will be sitting on the bench next season. I just don’t see this as a way to generate interest overall in the league.

    Could, be wrong, I still don’t see massive crowds popping up at games, in fact the Bayern/Wolfsburg showdown will still be played at Bayern’s training grounds field
     
  4. Lohmann

    Lohmann Member+

    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Here is the official post:)
     
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  5. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Bayern's coach doesn't want to use wingers/wide forwards. Frankfurt for years haven't used wingers/wide forwards. Leaving Hoffenheim, or Wolfsburg, as the only other UWCL level teams who'd provide the right conditions for Endemann's continued development.

    Endemann still obviously having a lot to learn, but what I've seen of her this season, just like I said about Brand, she's too good to be playing for anyone outside the UWCL next season. Age 21, playing at her 2nd Bundesliga club, and currently having her best scoring run of her career, allowing her name to be seen sitting among some of the leagues most productive players while being a wide forward for one of the leagues weaker teams.

    To me this sounds exactly like the scenario you typically expect before young talents make the big move into stronger clubs, higher quality football. Me only yesterday asking why Wolfsburg didn't take a chance on another young standout like Gudorf, currently impressing for another struggling team...:coffee:
     
  6. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
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    Seriously, this reads very similar to your asinine rant against the wnt during the Euro's lol. I don't like this, I hope it fails...:rolleyes:

    At least when I'm negative, it's because I want, or expect German teams to do better. But pretending the fate of Essen losing Endemann, becomes another excuse for you throw shade at this league... wow.

    We've just seen one of Germany's greatest female talents announce her retirement from the national team at the age pf 30, having left this league age 23... yeah, I don't see it being a major negative for the league, seeing it's top clubs doing a better job of retaining their nations best talents...:coffee:
     
  7. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    @hotjam2 SJJ, Brand, Oberdorf, Lattwein, Hagel, and now Endemann. All signs of Wolfsburg building for it's future.

    It would have much easier for them to have simply recruited ready made final products (like they used to do), but within a global market where rival clubs are throwing money at anyone with clout, I find this new direction of Wolfsburg recruitment to be very positive.

    If they wait, they lose these players. So they've taken the risk, and spent money to actively develop these players within their their team.

    Oh... and I'm still waiting for answer to this...;)
     
  8. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Interesting how some will see this as an upset, when Hoffenheim beat Wolfsburg last season, and if not for two extremely late goals would have already taken points away from Wolfsburg earlier this season too...:whistling:

    Not sure if this is happening due to Hickelsberger being injured...:unsure:, but damn, at least she's finally starting games now lol.

    Being a national team player who can't even start for her club, is honestly unacceptable when you understand this club isn't even part of the UWCL.

    And hopefully Lerch's insistence on demanding one and two touch football, will help remove some of Krumbiegel's more disappointing aspects.
     
  9. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Your forgetting how many of Wolfsburg’s players have been left on the wayside with barely any playing time between them; Bremer, Demann, Starke, Wedemeyer, Wolter, Agrez, Weiz, Blomqvist really could add Wassmuth with only 555 minutes out if an possible 1350(but better than Blomqvist at only 305 minutes).
    Brand’s been a reliable sub but not even playing the winger role anymore.
    Endermann has less creds than Brand, her thin frame suggests not an all around player, probably will be stuck at her familiar right-side winger(which already got Huth & Wassmuth ahead of her)
    a lot of those I’ve mentioned feel like their career’s are washed up after they played & get released by Wolfsburg(I mean seemed like Goessling had an couple of good years left in her instead of retiring)
     
  10. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
  11. hotjam2

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    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    after coming out firing, Bayern’s pulled back, guessing hoping to counter instead. Not sure if that’s the best idea, when they urgently need an goal
    14 min 0-0
     
  12. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I was going to say someone please tell Bayern their the home town team, but finally score at the 38th minute through high ball cross from Rall to Schuller’s header
    Bayern 1-0 halftime
     
  13. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    #1488 hotjam2, Mar 21, 2023
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    Bayern played it save for the whole 2nd half, as they hold on for an 1-0 win. Guess it’s 90 minutes of full bunkering in the return match in London

    Arsenal not showing much offense on top, or at least their striker Blackstenius way over rated/very flat in this one

    Bayern went with an 4-4-2 using Magull & Schuller as fwds. Buhl & Lohmann were way too wide to give much help up front/Stanway & Zadrazil weren’t good as playmaker’s. At least Schuller got to shine in counters
     
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  14. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Well, it didn't take long for this seasons frustrating version of Bayern to return lol. Like all their UWCL performances so far, this being another victory that provided few answers, but left a lot more questions...:unsure:

    And this after I'd predicting how both these teams would prefer to play the same way today, making the final result of 1-0 a pleasant surprise, given the nature of the generally poor football on display from Bayern's players.

    A match of some very poor mid-field work from both teams, GPV and Schüller would be the key players in Bayern's team today... in a season their UWCL absolutely defined by individual performances.
     
  15. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Blomqvist and Wolter, are the only names here that are relevant to any questions related to players overall involvement potentially being too minimal. Everyone else you've mentioned here, only at the club as #2 or #3 back up options for stronger 1st choice options.

    So I think your still making the error of comparing the nature/needs of elite European teams, constantly using the example of the incredibly short American league season. But you should know by now, strong Euro teams will need more depth if their going to compete for all competitions.
     
  16. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Blomqvist's situation honestly reminds of Rolfo. Where they were both very good at their previous clubs, yet it just never really worked out for either of these Swedish internationals within Wolfsburg.

    But Blomqvist is set to leave and be a very good player for someone else (just like Rolfo) at the end of the season, while Waßmuth took her opportunity to show why she should be a regular starter last season as Wolfsburg endured a lot of injures to their forwards; making the idea she'd leave pretty ridiculous, given the clear importance she had in her first season with the club.

    Blomqvist though... simply unable to showcase her true ability at the same level we've seen Waßmuth, and this even when Wolfsburg known as a team constantly dealing with their forwards suffering a lot of injuries.
     
  17. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I told you prior to her joining Wolfsburg, that Brand still had A LOT to learn, with aspects of her game as a winger still being very raw at times. Brand better at dribbling in tight spaces, and a far better passer with either foot too, it's however still easy to understand why SJJ will be first choice right now, due to her ability to exploit spaces behind defenses in ways Brand simply refuses to acknowledge.

    And this where your assessment of Endemann really poor, with loads of evidence she's a wide forward who exploits space behind defenses FAR better than someone like Brand, but also able to do so while playing on either wing or centrally as a #9 too.

    With Bremer and Blomqvist both leaving, a younger Endemann will be joining a team where her style already fits, but obviously with a view to her still continuing her development among stronger players, for a significantly more professional team.

    Wolfsburg recruiting a player who's traits appear to fit their system, it's strange how nobody said anything negative about Frankfurt recruiting Wamser from Essen, when it clear Endemann the better offensive prospect for them to take from Essen last season...:cautious:
     
  18. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Wow... what a bad take...:ROFLMAO: You literally have UWCL teams like Barcelona with a host of former Wolfsburg players....:giggle:

    And unlike a 32yo Goeßling who was constantly dealing with injury, I'd still be willing to believe Blomqvist and Bremer only being in their mid 20's, both able to find good clubs and continue being very effective for a few more years...:rolleyes:
     
  19. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    @hotjam2 Tick, Tock... I'm still waiting for answer to this...;)
     
  20. Lohmann

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    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
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  22. Lohmann

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    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
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    This game and their next games against Meppen, Freiburg and Essen...:cautious:.
     
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  23. kribi

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    Lyon
    France
    Jan 21, 2022
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Agree
    I think Bayern could have had more occasions il Buhl and Lohmann could drop the ball faster. Saw at least 2/3 long fast raid of either, trying to keep the ball absolutely, even between 3 opponents, then lost it, flop ... bad individual way...
    Second leg will be very tight, Arsenal looks stronger physically, Bayern is more experienced
     
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  24. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Welcome to witnessing Bayern's new highly suspect style of play in the 2022/23 UWCL lol.

    Not one game in this seasons competition having us see Bayern appear to be a complete team, non of what I personally witnessed Vs Arsenal unique, or remotely contradictory to their group stage struggles.

    The one positive I'd mention prior to these two teams facing each other, was Arsenal's style of play actually being more effective without the ball, having to face a Bayern side who for all their faults under their new coach, continue to maintain a very strong defensive record.

    Seriously... if you think Bayern looked physically weak, or tactically flawed Vs Arsenal, you should have seen how everything looked during the group stage lol...:speechless:
     
  25. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
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    Manchester United FC
    #1500 Batfink, Mar 22, 2023
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    Not sure if I'll be able to watch the Wolfsburg match later today... but knowing Wolfsburg's away record isn't the best, and Oberdorf missing, with Popp likely to be used in a CM role again, I'm thinking we could see Wolfsburg struggle during the first leg Vs PSG...:cautious:

    The one consistent factor I've seen with Popp playing in a CM role this season, is seeing her team struggling to compete in mid-field. And I can't help but think Wolfsburg will do well to leave France with a draw, looking to win the second match to go through to the semi finals.

    So I hope to be wrong here... but it will be interesting to see what form Wolfsburg can showcase today, starting a 3 match run to basically define their season...:coffee:

    EDIT: I see Oberdorf's name in Wolfsburg's starting 11...o_O
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