Very telling things about the current state of college soccer

But it's the LV part that matters here.

 

But they are not quality and do not bring in money. You SDSU, Boise Air Force and CSU are hetter candidates.. Even NEvada is a better candidate.

 

It's not always about quality....The conferences will sacrifice quality for market; i.e. Rutgers (New York), Colorado (Denver), Missouri (St. Louis/Kansas City). All mostly awful football programs who were snatched up by big conferences.

 

UNLV is a better pickup than Rutgers was for Big Ten in football. With Vegas becoming a boom sports town, I could see them getting into a Power 5 ( or 2, 3, 4 ) conference and going "all-in" with football/basketball. NIL could be massive in Vegas! Tark used NIL to build his teams ... it just wasn't legal then...;-)

 

Vegas fans are fickle... the Golden Knights started losing and fans started to drift off. unlv has zero draw. There is no Gucci row, no Wynn courtside. They had to give away free Nikes last year for students to show up to three home games. They are MW middle to bottom. It would draw fans from Utah for sure but not sure about Cal and Stanford are traveling here to play at the old run down T&M

 

Sorry mate, but you clearly don't understand the concept of large TV markets and their appeal for potential business opportunities. Let's leave it here and move on.

 

And you clearoky have an outside view of Vegas. It is a destination I get that but a big TV market you do not understand the city. PAC12 does not want eyeballs watching empty stadiums..

 

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Like some other schools, the stands will be filled with visiting schools colors.

 

For a consecutive year UMass - which has not released their schedule - has got a late road game with a contender. In this case they are going to Clemson 10/24.
Either there is a strategy involved in hitting the road just before A-10 tourny time or you take a game with a ranked team anytime you can get it.

 

My brothers family has 3 Ohio State alum, they have season tickets, they will for certain make a trip to Vegas, and will probably pay for the trip by selling their tickets to one the home games. And it won't have to be the Michigan game. They sold their Notre Dame tickets this year and paid for the entire rest of the season.

Big football schools travel !!!

 

That is fine and the score will be 75-14... vegas is not joining the big 10 though.. 64k stadium and there will only be 1000unlv students.

 

Boy have things really changed! As a hopeful peaceful transfer to the new system with the P5's, it has all gone to the Jerry McGuire show me the money, and as much as I would love to say Staff is wrong, he ain't.

The schools will now be in a scramble to fine those final spots for either two or three super conferences, and it will depend upon the who (excluding the Big 10 and SEC) of the final 3 (ACC, Big XII, and Pac 12) can emerge to challenge or is bold enough to make a move to be the third - if any. In any case, the correct assumption is soccer isn't on any AD's calculus for the decision making process, and I hate to say that there could be drastic fall out for the sport.

Smaller D1's will be ok, but the middle guys will get squeezed by the trickle down effect. The Super conferences will not be playing big money games against the Group of 5 or lower Championship division for football - or at the very least they will be very limited. Thus they aren't getting revenue - hence - they stop playing and paying BCS teams (or at the very least reduce the payouts).

Then we now have a melt down of teams. This will in and of itself change how teams are funded. So if my math would be correct and just a wild guess, out of the super conference group there would be around 1/3 to 1/4 will have men's soccer. By a loose count there would be 24 to 30 teams that would have membership in the big 3 conferences (if the ACC is one of them) and the wild cards of WVU, SMU, Oregon State or others on the fringe get a conference invite.

That said, they could and do as they please 21st century is a go. Flush with cash they can do as they please.

Then 182 of the rest of D 1. The questions will be how many survive. What will the conferences look like and what will happen when the money gets tight? I think that they will not adopt the 21st Century for the entirety of the rest. So, for now, we buckle up and hold on the roller coaster is about to leave the station.

 

FYI - UMass 2022 Fall schedule

 

St. Francis Brooklyn announces today they’re dropping all athletics. Not sure the last time we’ve seen a DI school make this move. Shock on my end, but apparently it was floated around to even move DIII.

One less NEC mens soccer program.

 

Not having any athletic facilities at all at the new building you just relocated your campus to was probably a sign for the students, but I guess that's not all that uncommon in NYC.

 

Real shame for everyone but especially the men's side here, consistently the best sport at the school and always a top program in the NEC. Giovatto and Cormack have both done really well there over an extended period. Hope they land on on their feet somewhere decent.

 

Nine men’s soccer programs lost in the 2022-23 school year, seven come with the school closing.

I imagine we aren’t done seeing that happen up through August. Then…another round of them.

 

It doesn't matter. Fresno State led the nation in attendance and still got dropped. Many of the football schools don't charge for admission since it costs more to staff than they make in revenue. It's not always the coach that determines the importance but the school and the donors. Soccer donors are important at IU (Thanks to Jerry, not Todd). Soccer donors are important at Maryland since Sash made that happen over 30 years. You can't compare St. Francis, NY to those programs and blame the coach for not getting more support for his program.

 

Just fyi
https://www.reviewjournal.com/sport...er 5 pursuit slowed by academics, market size

 

Eliminated programs (9):
DI - 1
DII - 2
DIII - 2
NAIA - 4

Added programs (for fall 2023 - 14):
DII - 2
DIII - 1
NAIA - 2
NJCAA/CCCAA - 9

 

How do you classify a school like Hartford that is reclassifying from D1 to DIII?