News: 2023 - Other teams thread

Discussion in 'D.C. United' started by pr0ner, Jan 11, 2023.

  1. revelation

    revelation Member+

    Dec 17, 1998
    FC St. Pauli
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Yes, I am angry. Rooney is a waste of time. He is gone at the end of this season and we've hired our next manager to be an assistant. We are only bothering with the Rooney time simply to be able to use his name to attract players, which I can understand because our reputation is shit. We used to be a class organization and our owners have made us more of a joke that the original Metrodonkeys. Perhaps even worse than that.
     
    sitruc, morange92, Alejandro 10 and 3 others repped this.
  2. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    [​IMG]
     
  3. revelation

    revelation Member+

    Dec 17, 1998
    FC St. Pauli
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Sorry to get off topic. Those posts should go in the DC thread not other teams...
     
  4. revelation

    revelation Member+

    Dec 17, 1998
    FC St. Pauli
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    What do you mean start?
     
    sitruc, DCU, morange92 and 3 others repped this.
  5. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    What is this supposed to mean?
     
  6. Yowza

    Yowza Member+

    DC United
    United States
    Oct 23, 2019
    Arlington
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They just hired Carl Robinson as asst. I assume the poster sees him as manager in waiting as he’s already had a head coaching gig in MLS.
    Rooney can leave after this season and many assume he will do exactly that.
     
  7. revelation

    revelation Member+

    Dec 17, 1998
    FC St. Pauli
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Rooney is under contract for this season only. I think there may be an option for next season too, but I doubt it will be exercised. Our newly announced assistant coach was the former head coach of Vancouver (IIRC). My guess is the only reason he took the job was to be next in line for head coach when Rooney leaves.
     
  8. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    The only problem with that is that Robinson was a terrible coach in Vancouver.
     
    sitruc, morange92, United1 and 2 others repped this.
  9. revelation

    revelation Member+

    Dec 17, 1998
    FC St. Pauli
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    So you are saying perfect for DC?...
     
    sitruc, morange92, fatbastard and 7 others repped this.
  10. griffin1108

    griffin1108 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 5, 2003
    Virginia
    But Robinson tore it up in Australia as a manager -- he's the Danny Allsop of DCU managers in waiting.
     
    sitruc, morange92, fatbastard and 5 others repped this.
  11. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    Seems right up our alley.
     
    morange92 and Winoman repped this.
  12. Yowza

    Yowza Member+

    DC United
    United States
    Oct 23, 2019
    Arlington
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He wasn't terrible.
    78W-72L-49D, 1 goal difference in nearly five seasons. This isn't terrible at all, particularly for Vancouver. If you squint DC and Vancouver look a lot alike, talent-wise. Yet Olsen gets rehired and his record makes Robinson look like Sir Alex.
     
  13. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    It's the other teams beating DC United that makes you feel so mad.
     
    MattR, Winoman and revelation repped this.
  14. revelation

    revelation Member+

    Dec 17, 1998
    FC St. Pauli
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nope. It is that ownership at DC United doesn't care that other teams beat us up...
     
  15. ImNumberTen

    ImNumberTen Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't disagree that there is plenty to be angry about...since the very beginning of the Levien era.

    That said, I am far less certain than you and many others seem to be about Rooney bailing after just one season. I think it's quite unlikely, in fact.

    While we all know he wants to manage in the EPL at some point he doesn't exactly have a convincing record as a manager yet. While he did get some scrubs to punch above their weight at Derby County he was at the helm as they were relegated, and then he left after saying he'll "stay to rebuild". Then he came here midseason last year and not only did he not get a new manager bounce with DCU but they performed worse and "won" the Wooden Spoon. For number of reasons that's not mostly on him but it's still a fact.

    He's a massive name as a player but EPL owners aren't stupid; they know plenty of big names have failed as managers. I think they are going to have to see evidence that he can build a club into a winner, or at the very least change the trajectory in that direction. If he can't even get his team into the all-but-the-worst MLS playoffs is someone really going to hand him the keys to a club in the biggest league in the world?

    Also, having left Derby prematurely right after having left DCU prematurely as a player I'd think Rooney might feel some pressure to not be seen as a guy who will bail at the first sign of a new shiny object.

    Lastly, while I was a skeptic when he came as a player I ended up impressed by his competitive fire. I'd have to think he still has that and really wants to turn this team around.

    Whether or not he can is another question, but for all those reasons I'd be really surprised if he takes off after only one full season. I could be wrong, though. Wouldn't be the first time. And I reiterate, there are plenty of reasons to be angry about how this club has been run for a long time now.
     
  16. revelation

    revelation Member+

    Dec 17, 1998
    FC St. Pauli
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Judging purely from his press conferences, Rooney certainly wants to do better and expects the club to do better. But when you don't have the talent of true difference makers, it will remain a challenge.

    My belief is that Rooney expects moments like Ku-Dipietro against Toronto and Durkin against Orlando to be turned into goals. These are great moments and it is fantastic to see the team fighting to create until the final whistle. However, this is not a sustainable strategy for doing well in MLS if you continue to leak goals at the other end. If we can shore that up, then we are getting late winners instead of late consolation goals, like in New York...
     
  17. revelation

    revelation Member+

    Dec 17, 1998
    FC St. Pauli
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    I don't think Rooney's results here will have much effect on his chances at a management job in England. With the strange MLS rules, the lack of respect about the league, and the celebrity he has, owners and fans won't care about his time here. Sure it doesn't look good ever to be bottom dwellers, but I'm sure he can chalk it up to lack of talent or the ability to acquire and keep talent.
     
    Winoman, SiberianThunderT and Yowza repped this.
  18. United1

    United1 Member+

    Feb 23, 1999
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    I guarantee he will go back for a Championship level team. Doesn’t have to be an EPL team. And some fool will hire him.
     
    revelation repped this.
  19. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    Of course, the irony is that right now every time some job becomes available over there, Rooney gets mentioned as a possible replacement. But if DC gets a Spoon this year, those rumors are going to dry up fast.
     
    revelation repped this.
  20. shammypants

    shammypants Member+

    Oct 9, 2013
    Club:
    DC United
    #145 shammypants, Mar 21, 2023
    Last edited: Mar 21, 2023
    Absolutely this. Imagine a team fighting relegation each year bringing in the guy who can't make the MLS playoffs when half of the league gets in. His "star" has faded over the years, and people want a real coach who can keep them in the EPL. If not the Championship he could very well coach in another country though.

    Also, if these are the "names" Rooney is attracting at the mere cost of 2-3 million dollars of salary, then good ********ing lord our reputation sucks. I mean we have been linked with stars, but that is incredible bullshit.
     
  21. shammypants

    shammypants Member+

    Oct 9, 2013
    Club:
    DC United
    Also, lol at saying Robinson would be a bad choice for DC Coach because he did poorly at Vancouver. The guy was better than Olsen across every metric- GD, possession stats, Win%- in a tougher conference. He's light years better than Rooney.
     
    morange92 repped this.
  22. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think anyone is saying that about Robinson that looked past the W/L. He's had success coaching and from what I understand his scouting connections are robust.
     
    morange92 and shammypants repped this.
  23. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    I might, actually. Vancouver never really looked good under him. If I could waive my wand and choose a Vancouver coach for DC, it would be Marc Dos Santos.
     
  24. Yowza

    Yowza Member+

    DC United
    United States
    Oct 23, 2019
    Arlington
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Vancouver has never been an aesthetically pleasing team to watch for me, so fair point. They basically had Camilo go off for a season and a half and that bumped their record, but at no point did I take them seriously as a contender though others did.
     
  25. fatbastard

    fatbastard Member+

    Aug 1, 2003
    Lincoln (ish), Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #150 fatbastard, Mar 21, 2023
    Last edited: Mar 21, 2023
    LOL @ The Wiz, taking pettiness to a DCU-FO-toward-their-fans level




    unfortunately, like much of corporate petty-ness, it was effective

    [​IMG]

    I hope they mock KC's use of this dumb "copyrighted phrase" at least once per episode - along with only ever referring to them as The Wiz, of course.
     

Share This Page