Jesse Marsch out at Leeds, rumored for Southampton job

The Premier League is so nuts.
If you take Guardiola and Klopp out, what is the average tenure of the other current Premier League coaches. Like...............8 months?

 

It seems as though ideally a PL team should hire a new manager for every match (and bounce!).

 

Interestingly, the Athletic's Crystal Palace suggests that Vieira strongly considered hopping over to Leeds to replace Marsch

 

Eh, Vieira was fired after 20 months on the job, with Palace winless in 11 and, prior to his last match in charge, they had gone three straight matches without a shot on goal. At this point in the season, CP are headed in the wrong direction and a change was probably needed. It's been a strange season for that club on and off the pitch.

 

God being a Premier league manager has to be one of the most depressing jobs on this planet.

Woy currently bookie favorite for the opening.

 

Indeed. They fire a guy with a hint of relegation danger.
Half the league is in relegation danger. Half the league can't get a "new manager bounce."

Of course, these guys are paid handsomely.
And when they're fired, many get paid handsomely to go away.

 

Yeah, I think I'd be OK with a job where getting fired happens often when the paycheck is big enough that all it takes is a handful of seasons and you bank enough to take nice long vacations anytime you lose a job and to continue working is mostly optional.

 

I’ve done work like that. Well, high stress, turnover rate, very high pay….., not worth it. Glad someone does it I guess

 

Speaking of that Klopp looked really stressed out in the Real Madrid game. I could see him leaving especially if the managements doesn't indicate they are going to go all out to get him new players to fix the slide. Klopp for the US job!

 

I think they should hire the first Crystal Palace player to ever play in the World Cup, I hear he's available and looking for a job.

 

Long gone are the days when coaches like Ferguson or Wenger would stay with their teams forever. Even someone like David Moyes had a long run at Everton.

Klopp is the longest tenured manager at current having been there about 7 and a half years, followed by Pep who has been there about 6 and 5 years. After than its Thomas Frank (though not all his time has been spent in the EPL) and Brandon Rogers who have both been in their current jobs for about four years. After that it's Arteta and Moyes who have both been there about 3 years. After that no one has been in their job longer than a year and half. And about half the coaches in the EPL are in their first year on the job.

 

Marsch is tied with Hassenhuttl at 8/1 to get the Palace job. Hodgson is favorite (2/1) with Lucien Favre second (5/1). Leeds fans are hoping Palace hire Marsch.
*obviously these odds are changing frequently.

 

The Athletic seems to think it'll be Roy Hodgson https://theathletic.com/4319290/2023/03/17/hodgson-crystal-palace-manager-latest/

Interestingly it was reported in their Vieira post mortem that Vieira was interested in taking the Leeds job after Marsch and that Crystal Palace wasn't really standing in his way.

 

I thought Hodgson retired? Like, after his return from his first retirement, he coached briefly and then retired again?! Am I mistaken?

 

I don’t know but he’s the favorite to take over.

But at least one person is throwing Marsch’s name around

Roy Hodgson is the favorite to take over Crystal Palace.

But @robbiemustoe thinks Jesse Marsch might be the solution for the Eagles. 👀#MyPLMorning | #CPFC pic.twitter.com/PIxgytrQaY

— NBC Sports Soccer (@NBCSportsSoccer) March 17, 2023

 

I looked him up as soon as I saw him as the bookies favorite for CP, thinking he is ancient and WTF? He's 75 and "retired" from CP at the end of the 20/21 season. Then "un-retired" to take over for the 2nd half of the 21/22 season for Watford, "retiring" again after that. Wikipedia has a quote from him upon announcing his "retirement" that "I really am stepping away from football for a while, but who knows what the future will be? It is a never-say-never moment. I've seen so many people retire with all the fanfare blazing, only to surface again somewhere in a fairly short period of time. I'd prefer not to do that." I guess he could come back again. Maybe the bookies know inside info about his willingness to "un-retire" one more time.

 

Hoping it's Roy Hodgson just so the gifs make a return















imagine firing Patrick Vieira for the doddering geezer who got wrecked by Iceland

 

Palace fans are not happy with the idea of Hodgson coming back.

Viera's firing also has a lot to do with the fact that the bottom of the table I'd insanely tight

 

What’s the pro sports record for a coach retiring and unretiring? Does Roy want the record?

 

For anybody wondering why Viera (despite being fairly well thought of for what he did at Palace) got fired and same with Jesse, Everton has been awful all year and entering their game to Chelsea are in 17th 1 point above relegation. If they win they will end the day in 12th place

 

Iceland’s coach at the time was a dentist. England had no chance against modern dentistry.

This is where I point out that pro/rel is anti competitive in a way. In the US, poorer teams have the option to go really young, decide which young players are good and invest in them while letting the rest go, and build a championship contender at least within a window, before those young players get their next contract and are priced out of their pay structure. Think of the KC Royals of the mid 10s.

With pro/rel, clubs that aren’t rich can’t plan more than a year ahead because they can’t afford to get relegated. So unlike our sports, where every team that doesn’t have a terrible owner has a chance, only the already rich have a chance with pro/rel.

theoretically, pro/rel is more competitive…every team has a chance to (in Ted Lasso’s words) win the whole ********ing thing. In reality, pro/rel limits the number of contenders.

 

On the pro/rel talk. I get why people want it and I do think it would make things fun and would reward some of the ambitious USL teams, I also think there are things that people overrate.

I go back to something Heath Pearce said on In Soccer We Trust a few weeks ago. Does a relegation battle make you mentally tough? Yes. But very few teams do anything other than just trying to scrap out results. So in his mind being about survival isn't good for development.

Is he right? I think it's case by case (personally I think Sarge's 1 year in the prem was a lost year for various reasons) but I don't think overall it's a good argument for pro/rel in America.

Of course in America if your team sucks fans aren't likely to go to a game either

 

lol