Official 2022+ Samurai Blue thread

Discussion in 'Japan' started by Samurai Warrior, Jan 7, 2022.

  1. Radu Razvan

    Radu Razvan Member+

    Mar 1, 2013
    Bucharest, Romania
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    Suzuki Yuma about Sano

    ちゃんと代表のスタメンになる

    If... Let's see
     
  2. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Hatate and Furuhashi again ignored, interesting.
     
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  3. Testator

    Testator Member+

    Glasgow Celtic
    Croatia
    Sep 5, 2017
    Croatian coast
    He said in an indirect way he doesn't rate the Scottish league. Ok, but why call up Maeda and rely on him?
    My theory is that he thinks Hatate and Furuhashi aren't positionally disciplined enough for his system. But he should say this, if he believes that.
     
  4. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Yeah then it makes no sense not calling Maeda up, agreed.
    Hmm.
     
  5. Testator

    Testator Member+

    Glasgow Celtic
    Croatia
    Sep 5, 2017
    Croatian coast
    Hatate defends a lot- his interception ability was always famed. And he even tackles. While Furuhashi might not be Maeda, he's at 70% of his defensive effort, even doing defensive headers at set pieces. I think that's worthy of being a super-sub in games against tough opponents. Against very defensive Asian teams, both Hatate and Furuhashi should start.
     
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  6. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Still. Maybe they have a deal with Celtic for them to stay. I hope.

    Some good call ups, wonder why he calls Nishimura though
     
  7. Kakeru

    Kakeru Member+

    Manchester United
    Japan
    Feb 22, 2016
    Montréal, QC, Canada
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I just give up with that tw@t of a manager. Can the media not put more pressure on that clown? Even if it's only the Scottish league, Kyogo being the best scorer and Hatate being the best midfielder in that league are not coincidences. Having those two in the side should be a no-brainer.

    Clubs have no say about who to pick or not on national teams. As much as I like Celtic, national teams do not and should not care about how clubs feel about certain individuals being picked.
     
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  8. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Posting for everyone the full list :

    Squad

    GK
    SCHMIDT Daniel (Sint-Truidense VV/Belgium)
    OSAKO Keisuke (Sanfrecce Hiroshima)
    TANI Kosei (Gamba Osaka)

    DF
    ITAKURA Kou (Borussia MG/Germany)
    TOMIYASU Takehiro (Arsenal/England)
    ITO Hiroki (VfB Stuttgart/Germany)
    HASHIOKA Daiki (Sint-Truidense VV/Belgium)
    TSUNODA Ryotaro (Yokohama F. Marinos)*
    SEKO Ayumu (Grasshopper CZ/Switzerland)
    SUGAWARA Yukinari (AZ Alkmaar/Netherlands)
    BANGNAGANDE Kashif (FC Tokyo)*
    HANDA Riku (Gamba Osaka)*

    MF/FW
    ENDO Wataru (VfB Stuttgart/Germany)
    ITO Junya (Stade de Reims/France)
    ASANO Takuma (VfL Bochum/Germany)
    MORITA Hidemasa (Sporting CP/Portugal)
    KAMADA Daichi (Eintracht Frankfurt/Germany)
    NISHIMURA Takuma (Yokohama F. Marinos)
    MITOMA Kaoru (Brighton & Hove Albion FC/England)
    MAEDA Daizen (Celtic FC/Scotland)
    DOAN Ritsu (SC Freiburg/Germany)
    UEDA Ayase (Cercle Brugge KSV/Belgium)
    TANAKA Ao (Fortuna Dusseldorf/Germany)
    MACHINO Shuto (Shonan Bellmare)
    NAKAMURA Keito (LASK/Austria)*
    KUBO Takefusa (Real Sociedad/Spain)
     
  9. NaohiroTakahara

    NaohiroTakahara Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Takuma Nishimura instead of Hatate and Furuhashi is damn weird. But at least he called up Sugawara and Keito Nakamura and Seko.
     
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  10. Gordon1995

    Gordon1995 Member+

    Oct 3, 2013
    Hatate/Furuhashi instead of Machino/Nishimura may have been preferable imo.
    Imo, he should have called up players like Haruya Fujii, etc. who are in pretty good form for their clubs
     
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  11. mushu21_2

    mushu21_2 Member

    Manchester United
    Vietnam
    Sep 1, 2018
    I think Moriyasu called up the players based on their "roles" in his preferred formation, not just "title".
    Of all the players with CF "title":
    A finisher -> Ueda
    A fast target man -> Asano
    A work horse who runs for the team -> Maeda
    Backup for all -> Machino

    So the way for Furuhashi to have a position is for him to drop Asano, and we all know who is Moriyasu's favorite.
    Or Furuhashi accepts to be a backup or a work horse, and for a star man in Celtic like hell he will accept it.

    Similar situation with Hatate. I also think they implicitly want a starting position if they are called up otherwise they're rather be at home. Yuma Suzuki or Osako also showed that attitudes, and they'll never be called up again.
     
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  12. Testator

    Testator Member+

    Glasgow Celtic
    Croatia
    Sep 5, 2017
    Croatian coast
    Your post makes sense, but due to how Japan plays, Furuhashi should be called up instead of Ueda. It's all about speed for Moriyasu, right?
     
  13. mushu21_2

    mushu21_2 Member

    Manchester United
    Vietnam
    Sep 1, 2018
    Playing Furuhashi makes little to no impact against deep defensive team like Costa Rica or loads of lesser teams in Asia, especially Moriyasu's attacking play is sub bar.

    You also have to take into context that most of Scottish teams play a gung ho entertaining football style, which is just right for Furuhashi to thrive. For me except for top20~top30 national teams in the world, most of the teams who face JNT will happy to just park the bus.
     
  14. Testator

    Testator Member+

    Glasgow Celtic
    Croatia
    Sep 5, 2017
    Croatian coast
    Furuhashi works under a manager who knows how to break open parked buses. Despite being short, he operates well against most Scottish teams, threatening them from within the box.

    Scottish teams defend like Asian ones, but with more height. And Furuhashi adapted to beat even Rangers' defenders.
     
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  15. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Still makes no sense not calling up a guy that will score around 40 goals in Europe.
    But Moriyasu is stubborn and has his ideas and favourite players and will stick to them. He got a excuse from me after the WC but still. Pisses me off.

    Why not bring Furuhashi instead of Nishimura?

    Wonder what he will do when Furu / Hatate plays for top european clubs.
     
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  16. mushu21_2

    mushu21_2 Member

    Manchester United
    Vietnam
    Sep 1, 2018
    Really, you should watch how my national team played against JNT =))
    Standing a lot of players in your own half doesn't mean you defend properly. You should play in extremely slow tempo, blast the ball to the crowd for no reason, pretend to show no desire to attack at times, make the match dreadful and ugly to watch. For me Scottish teams play way too fast and exciting to be consider "defensive"

    And yes, you have to give Postecoglou credits to create a team that can pump up the tempo of the match every games. But he is not Moriyasu, each coach has his preference.

    You want a team with exciting players and attacking football? Change the coach.
     
  17. Testator

    Testator Member+

    Glasgow Celtic
    Croatia
    Sep 5, 2017
    Croatian coast
    He will have no choice but to call them up. But I think he's tried Furuhashi and didn't like what he's seen, and is unwillling to give him another chance. Hatate is probably too fluid positionally for his tastes.
     
  18. Kanarienvogel

    Kanarienvogel Member

    Nov 15, 2019
    Defense: Good call ups. Including the guy with a complicated name from Tokyo, been starting for a while over Nagatomo (or Nagatomo on the right) No idea who Handa is, and Tsunoda only sort of half remember the name. But dropped the right guys, let's see how this goes.
    Offense: Much less.
    Midfield nobody new, hope he shows some more variation in the next friendlies. Yes, nobody there really needs to be dropped, but you can't try new guys without dropping anybody. I'd drop Ito of course. Hatate a no-brainer to call up.

    CF
    Minamino gone not a huge surprise since his adventures in France aren't going too well, but thought he would still get call ups. But at this point ok... Still, he is a proven scorer for the NT, might be worth keeping around, hoping he gets going again. Try him as CF, that's why I put him here, even if he has hardly played that for Moriyasu.

    Furuhashi? It's not just Celtic, Furuhashi has delivered everywhere he went, he scored in J2, at Vissel, now Celtic. Not for the NT, but then Moriyasu played him mostly on the wing... IMO he never got a fair chance. When he might have, then he was injured, and now Moronyasu seems to have moved on.

    Moriyasu of course right now has a whole bunch of interesting guys around, none look like a superstar, but all of them deserve a look. (As would Furuhashi..)
    Maeda with his pressing, and before moving to Celtic he scored lots for Yokohama too, so..
    Ueda got around 0 playable balls vs Costa Rica, certainly deserves another few chances, the ones Furuhashi never got.
    Machino for WC IMO a mistake, not ready, but here yes, you have to test him, looked good in the worthless EAFF.
    Asano, he'll never drop him. I would, as most other would... And ok, Asano has delivered twice for him. 7000000 missed chances, but first against Australia, where Moriyasu really risked being fired if Japan didn't win, Asano "scored", own goal finally, but great play by Asano. And then vs Germany. For Moriyasu that's probably enough to call up Asano until 2030.
    Then there's Hayashi, who somehow looked good at the Olympics, if learned to stay onside in the meantime..., Hosoya too is a guy who should probably get another look soon.

    In a way it's similar to 2018 early 19, he sticks with his midfield-offense, without really looking further (and then was caught out when Nakajima was injured for the Asian Cup) while doing the right thing defensively, trying different players.
     
  19. Testator

    Testator Member+

    Glasgow Celtic
    Croatia
    Sep 5, 2017
    Croatian coast
    It's clear Moriyasu knows far less about attack than defense. I'm hoping the new staff members help the attack phase improve. Also, it's unlikely he'd do this, but he could ask Maeda how Celtic break down defensive teams.
     
  20. mushu21_2

    mushu21_2 Member

    Manchester United
    Vietnam
    Sep 1, 2018
    Is anyone called up for Tomiyasu's place?
     
  21. morimotomania93

    Japan
    Jan 22, 2019
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  22. teioh

    teioh Member+

    Apr 17, 2012
    Tomi shouldn't been called up at all.
    Anyway what's the meaning of call 90% of the WC players for these friendlies? Is it not the right time to experiment? Try something new?
     
  23. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Its Moriyasu. Forgot that?
     
  24. NaohiroTakahara

    NaohiroTakahara Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    By the way, we need a thread for Koki Saito at Rotterdam @ Mods.

    This guy scored 3 times in a row and has all ready 4 goals and 3 assists.
     
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  25. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan

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