Roster & FO Changes Offseason 2022-23

Discussion in 'Real Salt Lake' started by rslfanboy, Oct 6, 2022.

  1. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pace certainly doesn’t hurt those two, but yeah it’s a concern that it’s the first thing brought up. Was that by Pablo or just on the reporting side?
     
  2. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Santos finished 14th last season. They’re at 5th right now but that’s only after a few games.
     
  3. irondeepbicycle

    irondeepbicycle Member+

    Real Salt Lake
    United States
    Jul 31, 2017
    3rd in the most recent Apertura, 5th in the current Clausura. They've been one of the top teams in MX all year.
     
  4. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You’re right
    I had 2 seasons ago data
     
  5. irondeepbicycle

    irondeepbicycle Member+

    Real Salt Lake
    United States
    Jul 31, 2017
    OK I'm just not gonna bother trying to figure out why the FO is doing what they're doing. Just gonna sit back and enjoy the show.

     
  6. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We definitely need an LB.

    Transfer Market has this guy's value at 750k though.
     
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  7. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To be fair, those are Euros (add ~10% for dollars). The valuation is about $2.5m because they're paying $1.8m (not sure if that's USD or not, just assuming it is for now) for 70% of his rights (30% sell on).
    My question, and I really hope this gets asked to the FO, is did they just pay 8X the price of a player that CD America just paid $300k for last month?!
    I get players are worth what you're willing to pay, but man this doesn't look good.

    I really do appreciate the team trying to add to a position of need. The ability to play CB could be really good, too.

    One other important note. He'd be international player number 9, the team only has 8 slots this year.
     
  8. irondeepbicycle

    irondeepbicycle Member+

    Real Salt Lake
    United States
    Jul 31, 2017
    I thought the whole point of trading Herrera was so we could get most of his value from Oviedo and Brody and reinvest his salary elsewhere on the team.

    But apparently the point was just so we could replace him with another TAM outside back and push Oviedo back to the bench? This offseason is so weird.
     
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  9. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, there were only 3 outside backs on the roster, one was a near iron man last year and is 28 this year.
    One hasn't played over 1k minutes in a year since 19/20, is 33 this year and I believe on an expiring contract.
    The other is a (nearly) 21 year old converted winger.
    This was absolutely a need. The number of games played this year is going to be a fair bit higher than last year. Teams need quality depth
    We don't know what his salary will be. I'm guessing his budget hit will be well below the max TAM, but he needs to be an impact player. His ability to play CB could be very helpful, too.
     
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  10. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    I’m guessing that Oviedo is not “the guy” they had hoped for.
     
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  11. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Are you counting Pierre Delentz or Jony Menendez in this count?
     
  12. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bertin, Anderson, Jasper, Ojeda, Oviedo, Ruiz, Savarino, Gomez and Vera (if signed).
     
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  13. RSLer

    RSLer Member+

    Sep 24, 2008
    Stansbury Park, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree with your points here. We can always use a solid LB. If he can move to CB in a pinch, then that’s even better. One of the big surprises in the 2022 season was Silva staying relatively healthy. I have trouble believing he can do it for two consecutive seasons.
     
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  14. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    I haven't added Bertin Jacquesson. Thx.

    Seems odd that Ruiz doesn't have a green card yet?
     
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  15. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Covid and the past administration didn’t help
    This administration isn’t showing to be helping either in that regard

    it would be peak Elliot fall to lock up all the international slots before the first game
     
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  16. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We needed outside back depth
    Something that should be readily available within the league. I don’t get this move at all
     
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  17. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jony has been loaned out to Newell's Old Boys in Argentina.
     
  18. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Well, until June at least.
     
  19. irondeepbicycle

    irondeepbicycle Member+

    Real Salt Lake
    United States
    Jul 31, 2017
    IMO the most MLS-ready player on the Monarchs last season was LB Aziz Kayondo, but I reasoned that we couldn't sign him because your backup left back is basically never where you want an international slot, so I was fine with not offering him a contract.

    But then we did this so I have no idea what the thinking is anymore. I guess we're expecting Vera to be an upgrade over Oviedo...? I thought we liked Oviedo like a week ago but what do I know.
     
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  20. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  21. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm pretty sure (it's an MLS rule that isn't mentioned much) that International status is determined at the roster deadline date of the day before the first game. If RSL is using all their slots by then, they will have to trade for one to add another player at any point after that.
     
  22. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think with the league getting better and with more games (anyone see the proposed playoff format yet?) you need 1.5 starting level players at each position, at minimum.
    Now with Vera, the expectation, at least for me (and maybe the FO), is this guy should be in discussion for Best XI within a year or two. It's a huge investment for an outside back.
    Oviedo isn't the long term answer at that spot, but I'm not in a hurry to get rid of him either.
     
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  23. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    #123 rslfanboy, Feb 7, 2023
    Last edited: Feb 7, 2023
    Huh. Weird. I had found a link that said he was there through the end of Velez' season, so summer this year, but we signed him through summer of 2024. I guess I'll go digging again.

    EDIT: Found this @rslsoapbox (now wasatch soccer sentinel)
     
  24. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Again, minus raises to new contracts and whether or not guys like Holt and Caldwell hit the senior roster, RSL should be around $2.5m (after Vera) below what they were spending on the senior roster compared to last year.
    It makes sense to keep Damir as a DP (save the TAM) unless you're bringing in another guy at/above the level of Sava.
    There should be room to add another difference maker or two in the budget.
     
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  25. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    UNLESS!!!! You want to save $1mil on costs?
     

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