YNT-Eligible MLS Players ('01-Younger) 2022-23 Offseason Thread

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  1. TarHeels17

    TarHeels17 Member+

    Jan 10, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1996 is just a horrible year, as we all know.
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    1995 isn't too bad. It's a little bit interesting that the odd years tended to be better than the even years in the lost generations.

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    1994, like 1996, is pretty terrible.
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    I think another point you could make is that the 1992 to 1996 years were so bad that MLS was unable to grow too much as a league because there just weren't enough Americans who could play at a high level, and the league would have become too Anti-American. You can see that in 1994's 2017 year - pretty good with 21k minutes at 23, but it's a lot of guys who aren't MLS caliber anymore. The top 10 are Marlon Hairston, Alex Bono, Brandon Vincent, Nick Lima, Jordan Morris, Jake Nerwinski, Kyle Fisher, Alex Crognale, Dillon Serna, and Nathan Smith.
     
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  2. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks for doing this, please keep it up... and it's definitely helpful when you list some of the main guys in each age group, that stuff is hard to remember.
     
  3. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    The variations in when MLS minutes peak is interesting.

    For the 1994s it happened at age 23.

    For the 1995s at age 27 (and may show an additional rise this season).

    For the 1996s at age 25.

    For the 1997s maybe at age 24.

    Each year is unique of course. But the 1997s are unusual by a number of measures. One is the unprecedented jump in minutes from their age 23 season to their age 24 season. Another is the stagnation in their age 23 minutes, down slightly from their age 22 minutes. Their age 22 numbers are higher than the other birthyears but not off the charts.
     
  4. TarHeels17

    TarHeels17 Member+

    Jan 10, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Their age 23 season was 2020, so less minutes to go around from less games due to COVID. That'll mess up data for years to come.
     
  5. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    I was wondering if the number of minutes was affected by expansion as well. It should be fairly straightforward to normalize the data to number of games played.
     
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  6. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Yeah, 2020 messed up a lot of spreadsheets, among other things. Adding a calculation for % of available minutes can maybe help normalize stuff a bit.
     
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  7. TheFalseNine

    TheFalseNine Moderator
    Staff Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 15, 2014
    Norman, Okla.
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  8. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Any Loons watchers got a sense of what's ahead for Patrick Weah this year?
     
  9. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    So there are two MLS academy kids in the current U20 camp who are currently college soccer players.

    Roald Mitchell (03), So. F, Wake Forest - NY Red Bulls
    Nick Pariano (03), Jr. M, Duke - Philadelphia Union

    And there were 2 similar players at this month's U19 camp.

    Kamran Acito (04), Fr. D, Duke - NYCFC
    Sam Williams (05), Fr. M, North Carolina - NY Red Bulls.

    Previously, in U20 or U19 camps this cycle, there have been 3 current college soccer players from MLS academies.

    KyMani Dade (04), Fr. GK, Loyola Marymount - LA Galaxy (did not play as a freshman), U20
    Tarun Karumanchi (03), Fr. M, UCLA - San Jose Earthquakes, U20
    Jayvin Van Deventer (04), Fr. M, Northwestern - Sporting Kansas City, U20

    I'm curious if anyone knows any scuttlebutt about any of these guys going pro this winter, either in MLS, NextPro, USL or abroad and if they'd be willing to share. I can't imagine teams preferring to leave top prospects, which you have to assume USYNT kids are, in college for too long and would rather get them in a pro environment.

    (With the caveat being we know nothing about the players' individual educational aspirations.)

    *There is also one current college player who was called into a U19 camp who was not from an MLS academy; Wake Forest Fr. D Sam Jones (04), who is from Portsmouth, VA, three hours from the nearest MLS academy. He was called into a U19 camp. Would presumably be a GA candidate in the next couple of seasons.
     
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  10. Campeones123

    Campeones123 Member

    Barcelona
    Brazil
    Sep 2, 2021
    I believe Sam was in the Philadelphia Union academy so would qualify for a HG
     
  11. TarHeels17

    TarHeels17 Member+

    Jan 10, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There have been rumors that Mitchell would have been signed this winter. Presumably, if he's not, it's his own/family's choice. He's a very good prospect. A+ tier athlete, which probably would lead many to call him raw, but he isn't that raw.




    Personally, I hope the kid signs as soon as possible..
     
  12. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
     
  13. irondeepbicycle

    irondeepbicycle Member+

    Real Salt Lake
    United States
    Jul 31, 2017
    Looks like '03 Moses Nyeman is in camp with Real Salt Lake. Unless there's a different "Nyeman" who would be starting a preseason game.



    Would make a lot of sense since Beveren and RSL have shared ownership.
     
  14. Dough Boy

    Dough Boy Member

    Sep 27, 2014
    Confirmation:

     
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  15. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    That would be a good opportunity for Nyeman.
    I'm not quite sure why it isn't working out at Beveren, but it isn't.
    Sometimes it just comes down to other guys in the squad playing well.
    That seems likely as they're tied at the top of the Belgian 2nd division, with a good shot at being promoted.
     
  16. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    yup.

    Ngoma injured again. It’s a real concern with this guy, or so I’ve heard

    It’s a shame. He is very talented
     
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  17. TarHeels17

    TarHeels17 Member+

    Jan 10, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are there streams for any preseason games? Haven't seen any so far.
     
  18. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not that I know of. The Coachella Valley Invitational may have some...
     
  19. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Per Glenn Crooks, all MLS tans are required to do a biweekly MLS Next Pro report and a monthly MLS Next report for Apple TV.

    They well be hyped and positive, but still pretty cool.
     
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  20. irondeepbicycle

    irondeepbicycle Member+

    Real Salt Lake
    United States
    Jul 31, 2017
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  21. no exit

    no exit Member+

    DC United
    United States
    Nov 20, 2019
    I guess we've technically moved past offseason? Atencio played a very competent 70' for the Sounders at the Club World Cup at the #6.
     
  22. WheezingUSASupport

    Dortmund
    United States
    Aug 28, 2017
    What happened to Vargas? Guessing Atencio and Leyva keeping him out of the 18?
     
  23. TheFalseNine

    TheFalseNine Moderator
    Staff Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 15, 2014
    Norman, Okla.
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Saw on Twitter something about a thigh strain. Not related to his back, hopefully.
     
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  24. Dough Boy

    Dough Boy Member

    Sep 27, 2014
     
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  25. no exit

    no exit Member+

    DC United
    United States
    Nov 20, 2019
    Schmetzer said it was unrelated. For what it's worth, Sciaretta reported the u-20s requested Vargas's release for their camp and the Sounders said no.
     
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