Alert: DANI ALVES ARRESTED

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  1. IVO !

    IVO ! Member

    Feb 25, 2009
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  2. IVO !

    IVO ! Member

    Feb 25, 2009
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    DA gave a deposition to Spanish police and following the deposition, he was arrested ! That is extremely unusual, so the situation is serious.
     
  3. celito

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    Feb 28, 2005
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    Alves is being detained in a prison without bail as he is considered a high flight risk due to his financial resources and dual citizenship.

    I hold judgement in these cases because there are instances of women giving false accusations (ex. Najila / Neymar case).

    Apparently she is accusing him of sexually violating her in the bathroom of a night club during a NYE party. Supposedly a camera recording shows her going into the bathroom with him going in shortly after. Obviously there aren't any cameras in the bathroom.

    There were reports of him saying he didn't even know / recognize her but now I see a report of him saying it that the act was consensual. I don't know if these conflicting reports are true. I've seen early reports being wrong before. But changing your story would be a big red flag.
     
  4. IVO !

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    DA was transferred to another smaller prison with his own cell because of his fame. Remember DA was a hero at Barcelona.
    Apparently the girl was crying all night after the incident in the bathroom and her dress was torn up, the hospital where she went that night after the incident confirmed a possible rape, and further, her testimony to police and judge was very powerful, and to make things worse, she has stated that she will not be seeking indenização, and she only wants justice.
    This is not at all good. I still find it very difficult to believe.
     
  5. celito

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    Yep. It doesn't look good for him. He changed his story 3 times now. Apparently she comes from a family that is well off financially. So it seems that there is no reason for her to be lying. Even if Alves somehow gets off if there still isn't enough proof to convict him, he will always look guilty. His reputation and legacy will be finished unless there is a complete 180 in the information coming out.
     
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  6. IVO !

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    He's hired top level Spanish attorneys, the best of the best.
    I still don't get one thing though. This girl went in the bathroom with DA for what? For a cup of tea ?
    Let's see what happens and praying for DA.
     
  7. samuel_clemens

    Dec 20, 2005
    Los Angeles CA
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    this reminds me of Tyson / Desiree Washington back in the 90s. Why would she visit his hotel room at midnight?

    it must suck to be a pro athlete these days. They are getting honeytrapped left and right.
     
  8. IVO !

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    Exactly. The problem is they have all these young beautiful girls after them, and it's impossible to resist. But if it were me, I would have her sign a document of consensually, AND tape record the event, lol.
     
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  9. celito

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    She apparently doesn't want money. How one comes to the conclusion this is a honeypot case is just bizarre. I'd wait for this to develop more, but changing your story 3 times (including one in court) is a terrible sign IMO.
     
  10. Doc_Exec

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    Jul 7, 2004
    I don't want to come to the conclusion as well without hearing more. But I have the same question as @IVO ! What was she expecting when she went to the restroom with Alves?
     
  11. celito

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    She claims he lead her in there telling her go to another room and didn't know it was a bathroom. That may sound strange because bathrooms are typically clearly labelled in commercial establishments. But we don't know what the setup in this VIP area was. We also don't know if she was a little drunk which may have affected her poor decision making up to that point. Shit, he may have even convinced her to go in there to talk in a more quiet place. People can be persuasive. Maybe she only expected to kiss in the bathroom and not have sex. I mean, I think we've all pulled over a woman to a more private place just to make out.

    The one questionable part in this would be if he was already groping her before going into the bathroom (as some reports have suggested), why didn't she already remove herself from the situation ? But again, people don't always make the best decisions even when signs are present. It doesn't make the rest of the story not true.

    I can honestly come up with theories for either side. But the fact that she doesn't seem to want money would seemingly go against the theory that she is lying. 2 other options would be:

    1 - They knew other prior to the encounter and she was looking for revenge for something. But they clearly didn't know each other.

    2 - They had consensual sex and then he just left like a jackass and she felt used. So therefore she is looking to screw him over. Could be possible. Someone would have to believe that the bruises she had came from rough sex and not being forced into it.
     
  12. IVO !

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    Feb 25, 2009
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    I'll take option 2.
     
  13. celito

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    His current wive, who initially put up an Instagram post defending Alves, has now deleted that post and most of her pictures with him from her Instagram account.
     
  14. IVO !

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    Damn.
    His lawyers will soon come out and disclose all evidence defending DA.
    I think DA is being condemned by the media without due process. You should have seen the episode today in Sport TV with this woman activist. They already made their decision of guilt. I just can’t imagine what he’s going through right now.
     
  15. samuel_clemens

    Dec 20, 2005
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    #15 samuel_clemens, Jan 27, 2023
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    All of the evidence presented so far is that they have had sex. None so far points to being non-consensual. Bruises on her knees will happen if the had consensual sex in the bathroom floor.

    This video however is very weird. If DA does have a drug habit it would be more likely for him to do something seemingly out of character.

    edit: I am still not buying her story until proof is presented.

     
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  16. IVO !

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    LET’S HOPE FOR THE BEST.

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  17. IVO !

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    THIS IS HUGE !!
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  18. celito

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    It depends on what she claimed how it happened. I never saw a detailed description at how she went into the bathroom. If she said he lead her and/or forced her in, then if the video shows something different, then her story doesn't add up. But if she never said that, then I don't see how it changes that much. The defense is trying to claim there are inconsistencies in her story but I think we will only find it clearly when and if there is a trial.

    What I do find strange, if true, is I think she said she had already been groped before going into the bathroom. Even if she thought it was another VIP area, whey would she follow him ? I saw today somebody claim she said she was afraid if she didn't follow him, she was going to be harassed if she tried to leave the area/club on her way out. That makes no sense to me. But again, I am not sure about the veracity of these accounts.
     
  19. IVO !

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    DA going in the bathroom alone almost two minutes before she did, and her going in separately and voluntarily, and her leaving the bathroom alone, is in complete contradiction to her deposition and shoots down the complete theory of rape, not to mention loss of her credibility. She herself opened and closed the bathroom door, and the DA team has the evidence.
    This is a set up.
     
  20. samuel_clemens

    Dec 20, 2005
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    you'd think that after DA made her touch his penis the first time she would have called security in the spot. Nevertheless she stayed in the VIP room with him all night, where he made her touch his crotch 3 more times until finally at 4:30AM she followed DA to a mystery room having no idea what it was and what was about to take place. At which point DA turned into complete maniac and forcefully raped her.

    yeah sounds like the Desiree Washingon/Najila whatever - school of selective naivete to me.

     
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  21. celito

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    Daniel Alves muda versão mais uma vez e afirma que foi ele quem sofreu abuso sexual. O jogador alega que recebeu sexo oral sem consentimento, mas não fez nada para impedir. Daniel Alves diz que “escondeu a verdade” para proteger a mulher.

    Is this his 4th version of what happened now ?

    Also it has been reported (in Brazil) that before his wife visited him in prison, he told her he was drunk and didn't remember a thing.

    Even if he is found innocent, he has really tainted his image and legacy forever. The only way it doesn't is if it's actually found out that she is lying ... not that they just couldn't condemn him on lack of evidence.
     
  22. IVO !

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    Judge turns down defense appeal for a release until trial and DA remains in prison.
    Unreal this situation.
     
  23. celito

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    Not related to Dani Alves but related to the subject ... the release of Robinho's audios that were used in his trial .... oooof. Loads of lying, scheming, and backstabbing. Not really surprised by any of it.
     
  24. Al Gabiru

    Al Gabiru Member

    Jan 28, 2020
    This is more common than people think.

    But usually the players and their agent make a deal before the case comes to light.

    At my university, a girl said that she was raped by a winger. He was out for a few days, they told the press he was hurt, and they got the girl some money and he came back to play. People didn't even know whats happened
     
  25. Serengeti_Boy

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    Sep 15, 2009
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    It winds me up to see fans support players and jump to conclusion that they are innocent and being played for money.

    Yes, some women do that and they should be locked up. I mean better a woman who traps you with a kid and you have to pay for child support and upkeep. That's wicked but not the worst thing she can do to you. False rape allegations are so damanging I don't know where to start and end. People still think you did it even if you were innocent.

    That said, despite such women, there are athletes with poor morals who think they have more rights than everyone else. Like your story, a lot of it dies off and never comes to light.

    As an example, Mike Tyson who I don't think is a good human, I think watching him fight was amazing and can't take that away from him. But I don't know why fans defended him despite his off ring antics. Being good at kicking a ball doesn't put you up there on a pedestal of morals.
     

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