2022-2023 UEFA Referee Discussion [R]

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  1. ref29

    ref29 Member

    Nov 8, 2010
    Officially confirmed by the French federation: https://www.fff.fr/article/9225-antony-gautier-nouveau-directeur-de-l-arbitrage.html

    According to the FIFA Regulations, active referees are not allowed to be part of a Referee Committee (elected position). There are no restrictions with respect to paid positions in a federation, including the referee department (if you remember, Michel Zen-Ruffinen was an active FIFA referee while working as a FIFA General Secretary in the late 90s).
     
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  2. Mikael_Referee

    Mikael_Referee Member+

    Jun 16, 2019
    England
    I didn't realise he was still active at this time! :D

    A good man. The 'Snowball' figure of early-noughties FIFA (refereeing)...
     
  3. Why do you think that?
     
  4. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    You're kidding...right! :unsure:

    :p
     
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  5. The whole Argentina vs the Orange Squad clashes before in total hasnot got into those ten cards in total you mentioned, so you're just smoking something very strong.
     
  6. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    :p
     
  7. El Rayo Californiano

    Feb 3, 2014
    What did they do with Mateu?
     
  8. SouthRef

    SouthRef Member+

    Arsenal
    Jun 10, 2006
    USA
    Club:
    Rangers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    JUV-ATA 22’ - Juventus player down in the box; no foul given initially but PK later given by VAR

    DiMaria ran after the referee and pulled his shirt while pointing at the collision; no card given.
     
  9. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    boy would I love to see a crack down on that crap. If the NBA can have an automatic ejection for contact with a ref, I really don’t get why soccer can’t pull the reins way, way back, even if they don’t go as far as automatic. (At the level I do, any player pulling my shirt is gone.)
     
  10. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The NFL does too. We've seen players ejected for making contact with a ref by reacting when the ref tries to separate players in a pile.
     
  11. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1111 MassachusettsRef, Jan 22, 2023
    Last edited: Jan 22, 2023
    Did you guys notice Marquinhos grabbed al-Jassim by the back in that Riyadh-PSG friendly? After the most obvious red card possible. In a friendly. Just boggles the mind what players are entitled to at this point. I think we are well past being able to put the toothpaste back in the tube.
     
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  12. StarTime

    StarTime Member+

    United States
    Oct 18, 2020
    We saw this behavior completely ignored 3 times (if I remember correctly) during the World Cup. I’m reminded of an old saying: “what’s allowed is encouraged!” It’s a shame that this sets a terrible example for lower levels of the sport, where referee abuse and assault is already a huge problem.
     
  13. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
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  14. El Rayo Californiano

    Feb 3, 2014
    Whatever happened with the green cards in Serie B?
     
  15. Mikael_Referee

    Mikael_Referee Member+

    Jun 16, 2019
    England
    Szymon Marciniak and Danny Makkelie will referee the semifinals of the Saudi Super Cup competition tomorrow (perhaps curiously - the Dutchman refs the bigger tie). Marciniak returns to the Kingdom having already notched up prior appointments in Egypt and even Cyprus since his epic WC final performance. The Pole got into a huuugggeee pickle with such (lucrative) foreign appointments in 18/19 season, with crazy travel schedules managing UEFA, domestic and then these foreign assignments. I guess you can’t blame him for wanting to ‘make the most’ of his positive coverage/ebb since Argentina vs. France, but I’d urge him to be careful…
     
  16. StarTime

    StarTime Member+

    United States
    Oct 18, 2020
    Has he had games in Poland yet since his big Final?

    Also, for what does he need to be careful? Other than a UCL Final, which could very reasonably happen this year, or a lengthier stay at the top, what left is there for him to accomplish in his career? He could retire today and go down in history as one of the best referees ever (I don’t think he is that good, but in 100 years, no one will remember anything besides the three penalty kicks and the simulation in a World Cup final). Any further high-publicity games jeopardize that legacy, even if it was something like a UCL Final that would normally be a pinnacle accomplishment! It fascinates me what motivates a referee in such a unique position as his, does he want to try to achieve more or would he be happy to all-but-retire on top? We know the saying, you either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain.

    I don’t blame him at all for getting his payday while he can, family is too important and life is too short and volatile, anything can happen, and Marciniak should know this better than anyone other than Hategan.
     
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  17. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    No. According to Soccerway, he's had one match each in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Cyprus.

    I tend to agree. It also makes me wonder what elite referees do after their refereeing career is over. Sure, some - like Webb, Riley, Collina, Busacca, Rosetti, Rizzoli, Rocchi, Kassai, Vassaras - get plum refereeing management positions, but these positions are scarce and usually reserved for the most recognizable names. I suppose others become refereeing instructors/assessors, and yet others return to (or continue) their non-refereeing job. The situation is even more interesting for assistant referees, since they don't make as much money in their refereeing days in the first place and their names are less recognizable, so continuing in the refereeing world must be harder.
     
  18. Mikael_Referee

    Mikael_Referee Member+

    Jun 16, 2019
    England
    Repeating what happened in 2018/19. He used to have a crazy schedule too often by 'cramming' in all this games and only sleeping at airports and during flights etc. UEFA even had to intervene. It is no coincidence that he lost his form in this period...

    Me neither! :)
     
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  19. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
  20. Barciur

    Barciur Member+

    Apr 25, 2010
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    The Ekstraklasa does not return until this weekend, however, he will not have a game then as he will be at a UEFA camp in Rome, according to the Polish media.

    He did referee the Płock Cup in futsal early January :) It is a local hometown futsal tournament organized by his brother.



     
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  21. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Unrelated to on the field items, but the Spanish warmup kits that the La Liga fourth officials wear are really sharp once you get the Macron and Wurth advertising off of them.
     
  22. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    Kinda weird to see something like this 6 years into video review.
     
  23. soccerref69420

    soccerref69420 Member+

    President of the Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz fan cub
    Mar 14, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea DPR
    Holy crap Tony Ten Cards was officiating today? Just checked the results and he gave out 8 yellows. Need to watch this when I get home.
     
  24. Mikael_Referee

    Mikael_Referee Member+

    Jun 16, 2019
    England
    1623201172495400960 is not a valid tweet id
     
  25. Pelican86

    Pelican86 Member

    United States
    Jun 13, 2019
    Let's assume for the sake of argument that the PK call is correct, but that either (or both) of the attackers were interfering with the keeper's attempt to release the ball. Can that interference with the keeper technically not be reviewed as part of the attacking phase of play since the blue team didn't actually have possession of the ball?
     

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