What a douche. And flipping off a...stadium? How juvenile. I wonder if he swears at stadiums as well. "F*ck you, Lumen Field!" "Rio Tinto, you're an a$$hole!"
(This shows that the Quakes are not such a small team, but I didn't know where else to post this) Forbes MLS Valuations 2023 Asterisk next to owners name indicates they are billionaires 1. Los Angeles Football Club $1 billion 2022 Revenue: $116 million | Operating Income: $8 million Key Owners: Bennett Rosenthal*, Brandon Beck, Larry Berg 2. LA Galaxy $925 million 2022 Revenue: $98 million | Operating Income: $4 million Key Owners: Philip Anschutz* 3. Atlanta United FC $850 million 2022 Revenue: $81 million | Operating Income: $6 million Key Owners: Arthur Blank* 4. New York City FC $800 million 2022 Revenue: $55 million | Operating Income: -$12 million Key Owners: City Football Group 5. D.C. United $700 million 2022 Revenue: $70 million | Operating Income: $8 million Key Owners: Jason Levien, Steven Kaplan 6. Toronto FC $690 million 2022 Revenue: $62 million | Operating Income: -$15 million Key Owners: MLSE (Larry Tanenbaum*) 7. Austin FC $680 million 2022 Revenue: $84 million | Operating Income: $2 million Key Owners: Anthony Precourt, Eddie Margain 8. Seattle Sounders FC $660 million 2022 Revenue: $66 million | Operating Income: $1 million Key Owners: Adrian Hanauer, Jody Allen 9. Portland Timbers $650 million 2022 Revenue: $65 million | Operating Income: $1 million Key Owners: Merritt Paulson 10. Charlotte FC $625 million 2022 Revenue: $69 million | Operating Income: $4 million Key Owners: David Tepper* 11. Inter Miami CF $600 million 2022 Revenue: $56 million | Operating Income: -$5 million Key Owners: Jorge* and Jose Mas, David Beckham 12. Sporting Kansas City $590 million 2022 Revenue: $59 million | Operating Income: -$3 million Key Owners: Cliff Illig*, Patterson Family 13. Philadelphia Union $575 million 2022 Revenue: $54 million | Operating Income: -$8 million Key Owners: Jay Sugarman 14. FC Cincinnati $560 million 2022 Revenue: $56 million | Operating Income: -$1 million Key Owners: Carl Lindner III*, Meg Whitman* 15. Columbus Crew $550 million 2022 Revenue: $55 million | Operating Income: -$8 million Key Owners: Dee & Jimmy Haslam* 16. Minnesota United FC $540 million 2022 Revenue: $54 million | Operating Income: -$1 million Key Owners: Bill McGuire 17. New York Red Bulls $525 million 2022 Revenue: $50 million Operating Income: -$6 million Key Owners: Red Bull GmbH 18. Nashville SC $500 million 2022 Revenue: $46 million | Operating Income: -$5 million Key Owners: John Ingram* 19. New England Revolution $475 million 2022 Revenue: $37 million | Operating Income: -$4 million Key Owners: Kraft Family* 20. San Jose Earthquakes $450 million 2022 Revenue: $43 million | Operating Income: -$5 million Key Owners: John Fisher* 21. Real Salt Lake $440 million 2022 Revenue: $43 million | Operating Income: $0 Key Owners: David Blitzer*, Ryan Smith* 22. Houston Dynamo FC $435 million 2022 Revenue: $39 million | Operating Income: -$10 million Key Owners: Ted Segal 23. Chicago Fire FC $425 million 2022 Revenue: $25 million | Operating Income: -$18 million Key Owners: Joe Mansueto* 24. Orlando City SC $420 million 2022 Revenue: $42 million | Operating Income: -$4 million Key Owners: Wilf family 25. Vancouver Whitecaps FC $410 million 2022 Revenue: $21 million | Operating Income: -$15 million Key Owners: Greg Kerfoot, Jeff Mallett, Steve Luczo 26. FC Dallas $400 million 2022 Revenue: $40 million | Operating Income: -$8 million Key Owners: Clark and Dan Hunt* 27. CF Montréal $375 million 2022 Revenue: $30 million | Operating Income: -$12 million Key Owners: Saputo family* 28. Colorado Rapids $350 million 2022 Revenue: $33 million | Operating Income: -$5 million Key Owners: Stan Kroenke*
METHODOLOGY To rank the most valuable Major League Soccer franchises, Forbes examined recent transaction data, reviewed publicly available financial information and spoke to more than 40 team executives, owners, investment bankers and industry insiders. All published figures are Forbes estimates; team values do not include stadiums, real estate or debt. Revenue and operating income are for the 2022 season, and the latter represents earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization. Playoffs, player transfers and shared distributions from MLS were excluded from revenue calculations. Clubs’ ancillary revenue streams, such as non-MLS events, were included.
20th out of 28, only $130 million below average, despite being the only team in Northern California, with a stadium in silicon valley aka the current center of the universe. Since 2019, the average MLS team’s valuation has climbed 85% to $579 million. 20. San Jose Earthquakes $450 million 2022 Revenue: $43 million | Operating Income: -$5 million Key Owners: John Fisher*
Here's Forbes valuation of the Sharks: No. 25 • $740 M SAN JOSE SHARKS 1-Year Change: 18% Owner: Hasso Plattner Operating Income: $7 M
5. San Francisco Giants Value: $3.5 billion One-Year Change: 10% Owner: Greg Johnson Operating Income: $32 million 27. Oakland Athletics Value: $1.18 billion One-Year Change: 5% Owner: John Fisher Operating Loss: $9 million #1. $7 bil GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS 1-YEAR CHANGE: 25% | OPERATING INCOME: $206 mil OWNERS: Joe Lacob, Peter Guber No. 8. $5.2 billion San Francisco 49ers 1-Yr Change: 25% | Operating Income: $142.5 million | Owners: Denise DeBartolo York, John York
1. Warriors 7b 2. 49rs 5.2b 3. Giants 3.5b 4. A's 1.18b 5. Sharks 740m 6. Quakes 450m I didn't realize the Warriors were so far ahead of everyone.
The same Forbes that named Vallejo the sixth best city to live in California. https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/vallejo-forbes-best-places/3144585/ Go figure.
Sacramento San Diego SF LA San Jose Vallejo Joke list. I’ve lived in SF back when it was livable, and it can’t hold a candle to the livability of San José. And LA is obviously not livable unless you have a private helicopter (and Kobe can attest that’s problematic, too). The top three cities don’t even have MLS teams. Not livable.
Nope. @xbhaskarx is right, we're a small, small team. We are in the bottom third of valuation. Our income is negative. We're below the average in estimated value at less than half of the highest-valued team. We just spent more money on a transfer than ever before, and that transfer is small compared to what many other teams are spending. Yep! This is the right thread. The small team, small-minded, small spending, canal-water sucking, shit-ass little team. And we're in the heart of Silly Valley. How is it that we aren't doing better?! It's because our ownership sucks. I'm so depressed. And have I mentioned that I have this terrible pain in all the diodes on my left side? Go Quakesfans!!
Couldn't agree more. Though I do like San Diego, and they have that bitchin' zoo. Still and all, SJ's crime rate is better, SJ have their own bitchin' museums, MLS, and many other amenities. It's a nice place. I like SJ much better than Seattle, probably better than Portland, and definitely better than Sacramento. The weather in Sackramento is terrible. Probably better than Denver, but I haven't spent enough time in Denver. I should fix that. Oh, and better than Phoenix. Probably several other cities. Go SJ!!
I like all of the top 5 (never spent much time in Vallejo), but I do believe San Jose is most livable.
10,000 fans x $50 tickets x 17 games = 8.5m + Parking fees + Overpriced beer = 44.5m - 10m roster budget -------- 43m It works out perfectly!
Not quite San Jose, but recently my hometown, Sunnyvale, was rated the #1 "happiest city in America", primarily due to high income / low poverty, high marriage rate, and relatively low crime. "No. 1 with the highest percentage (62.5%) of people making $100,000 or more, and the third-lowest share of adults living below the poverty level (about 5%). The city had the fifth-highest marriage rate (56.8%), and was ninth-lowest in violent crime in the area." https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/happiest-bay-area-city-17712009.php There are 6 CA towns in the top 10, @Earthshaker's WA only pulling in one spot, probably out of pity, despite their highly vaunted pickleball invention. Nothing in SoCal until 9, and 10, and even that is highly suspect. There was a segment on the local news that actually featured the street I grew up on as an example of Sunnyvale "happiness", as it has some neighborly traditions like the daily "wave" - a tradition that started during COVID where everybody comes out of their houses around 4 or 5 pm to congregate, socialize, play games (anything except pickleball, which would make us less happy), celebrate birthdays, etc. The most surprising thing to me about all this is that Sunnyvale is one of the 200 largest cities in the U.S. (I suppose by population?).
I know it's popular to bash LA, but it's such a huge area -- if you superimposed the map on our area, it would probably cover...oh, wait, someone did that already (isn't the internet wonderful, sometimes?) Point is, you can't generalize about the whole city. With almost 500 neighborhoods, there's substantial variability.
There are many neighborhoods, with substantial variety, and the great majority in the “awful” bucket. And all underneath an amber sky with lung-irritating air.
Yes, a lot are pretty awful, but not all. I prefer the general LA vibe to that of SF. I've never lived in SJ so can't compare, but the mid-peninsula is mostly pretty boring.
LA is so big it's ridiculous to even categorize it as one city... there are plenty of places down there I would never want to live but maybe I'd consider Echo Park or Silver Lake or whatever... Also Orange County has gone from being a reactionary suburban strip mall hell hole to quite decent, I think there might be more vegan restaurants in Costa Mesa than in San Jose... the John Birchers must be rolling over in their graves.