Konrad de la Fuente setting the bar high at SD Eibar (olf Olympic Marseille)

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  1. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Does the Eredivisie allow parent clubs to pick up a share of the player's salary? If they do, that sounds like a way of driving a very large bus through the non-EU salary and its purpose.
     
  2. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Most of AZ' youngers are reportedly paid next to nothing, but the top 10 are all paid over the foreign minimum (and I wonder what's up with Sugawara - most reports have him at under non-EU minimum. Any chance he has a 2nd passport - or, more likely, the info on the internet is crap.

    I don't know off hand how Netherlands treats any "carry back" by loaning club. Seems like it must allow some, but does it allow the loaning club's portion to cut into the non-EU minimum? I dunno.
     
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  3. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Running the Gamut: Konrad de la Fuente at AZ Alkmaar (olf Olympic Marseille)
     
  4. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Yes, a thousand times, yes - that’s our guy!
     
  5. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A possible loan to Ligue 2 (with OM paying all of his salary)?

    According to our information, Konrad de la Fuente could be the next recruit of AS Saint-Étienne. Track revealed by GaelB42 , it is a dry loan which awaits the American international in Forez, Olympique de Marseille should take charge of all of his salary if the deal takes place between the two clubs.

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  6. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    DE
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hopefully they don’t make him pay for his uniform and locker room access. St Etienne is 19th in the table. Is he up for a relegation battle?
     
  7. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    He has the ability, but he has to show that he has the mental capacity to handle the pressure of being a pro and the discipline to play in a team. No better place to prove the doubters wrong than a relegation struggle.

    It's just a pity that a relegation struggle is the only place that can be found for him, and with Marseille picking up his entire salary at that
     
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  8. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    DE
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Have to develop trust as a loanee in a relegation battle. Are you willing to scrap and battle for every point possible or are you just there to showcase for your next club? He doesn’t have to worry if St Etienne goes down as his contract goes to June 2025.
     
  9. kruck

    kruck Member+

    Jan 12, 2008
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    With the way things have been going, any PT at all at anything resembling a decent level would be fantastic.

    Kid might be out of professional soccer pretty quick if he doesn't get it together. Or, like, playing in Finland or something for $25k.
     
  10. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Ligue 2? He'd be better served playing in MLS.
     
  11. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Man, what a terrible buy for Marseille. I remember thinking it was a big risk at the time. They paid 4.5m Euros for a Barcelona academy member who had a bad u20 WC, USMNT debut against a weak opponent, and was already 20. This was in the midst of an economic recession too. Now they're having to pay all his salary on these loans that have been failed so far.

    You have to take some risks in the transfer market. But on paper, some make more sense than others. This was one that made less sense. And so far it's been a mini disaster. It's not been on the level of a major money transfer. But you can only afford so many of these too before you get into financial and in turn competitive trouble.
     
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  12. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I mean, if Saint Etienne takes him on loan with OM paying his entire salary, it’s pretty alarming. Free transfers are always uncertain because teams are taking a flyer whereas if a transfer fee is paid, the team is invested in the player and he’ll definitely get a shot. But on free transfers, at least the team is still paying his salary.

    But if a team gets a player and doesn’t even pay any of his salary, it’s almost like they’re getting a volunteer intern. How little can you want someone?

    If this move happens, Konrad better take advantage of it. I’m not sure what is next for him if he doesn’t do well
     
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  13. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Marseille pays his salary but there must be a condition in the loan agreement that forces Saint-Étienne to play him for a certain minimum number of minutes. That way they have to make sure at the very least that he keeps in shape and he has a chance to develop in actual games.

    With S-É on the verge of yet another relegation, they cannot afford to play a guy they're not guiding, so he's going to receive training.
     
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  14. RossD

    RossD Member+

    Aug 17, 2013
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Well yeah, but what if the coach doesn't agree with the staff who sing that agreement? I highly doubt a coach who is battling relegation gives a crap if a player is "contractually" required to play a certain number of minutes. Also, I don't know how that would play out with the rest of the players who are battling for minutes. UGH
     
  15. MHaifa1913

    MHaifa1913 Moderator
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    Metro
    United States
    Dec 21, 1998
    New York, NY, USA
    Club:
    Maccabi Haifa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    On the Israeli website, One.co.il, they are saying that Maccabi Tel Aviv has been trying to sign him but he has another offer from Hull City and has zero interest in coming to Israel. Don't blame him. Israeli football is usually seen as just below Greek football.
     
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  16. eliwood

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  17. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
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  18. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Straight to Hull - sure beats Ligue 2 loan.

    So close to Leeds - and far from God.
     
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  19. abw

    abw Member+

    Nov 10, 1999
    Athens, GA
    Last American to play for Hull since Guzan?
     
  20. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Vaughn Covil played for Hull earlier this season before tearing his ACL
     
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  21. kruck

    kruck Member+

    Jan 12, 2008
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Eric Lichaj was more recent then Guzan as well
     
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  22. m vann

    m vann Moderator
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    Colorado Rapids, Celtic FC, & Louisville City
    Sep 10, 2002
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Once a Hull of a Talent: Konrad de la Fuente @ Hull City (olf Marseille)

    Harsh but true. Not to sound like a broken record……hopefully he can get can back on track at Hull City.
     
  23. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    DE
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I guess we'll see if Konrad can do it on a cold rainy night in Stoke. Not that Hull is much different. He's in for a battle which might do him some good.
     
  24. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Former Fulham (among others) winger/wingback Liam Rosenior is their manager.
     
  25. eliwood

    eliwood Member+

    Jul 25, 2016
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