Let’s talk about The European Super League

Sooner or later, something will have to sacrified.

Either play less league games the UEFA-EUROPA-CL or Domestic Cups.

They can always play the majority of the Coppa Italia games in the summer.

They are already doing that so I don’t see how that would be a loss.

Also, not sure about other leagues but other than the FA Cup, the Coppa Italia hardly generates much revenue for clubs.

I don't think they will do away with it but I can see them playing it in the summer.

 

SUPER LEAGUE NOT DEAD YET:

https://theathletic.com/3450382/2022/08/10/european-super-league-battle-court/

Lots of detail in that article, but here is a short

Snip:


"....Well… what if we told you the company behind it was at the European Union’s highest court last month for a two-day hearing and… well, it did not go that badly for the ESL?

The company was asking the European Court of Justice (ECJ) to make a ruling on whether FIFA and UEFA broke the law when they threatened to expel the devious dozen from their competitions, including a possible World Cup ban for the players involved. We will not get an answer until December 15, but the arguments heard in the Luxembourg-based court suggest the ESL, or something similar, will be back at some point.

Those arguments took nearly nine hours across July 11-12, but because there was no football on (friendlies don’t count and the Women’s European Championship had not really got going) we watched every minute. Do not thank us, it is all part of the service, and it has only taken us four weeks to make sense of our notes...."

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/ChFhnuopnWm/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

 

I say eventually , the SL will happen.

On a scale of 1-10, probably 7 or 8.....

 

It makes too much economic sense for everyone that isn't owned by an oil rich country/sheik, or in the Premier league.

 

PL teams will push back because they are enjoying the monopoly. Why would they strengthen other teams?


But their problem is they can rarely produce their own talent, they keep buying players from other leagues. Most of their youth they overpay for dont really pan out other than an occasional Harry Kane.

 

Real still making the case:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...rid-president-florentino-perez-says-zwt2x86zn

 

Whats funny is Agnelli wants this superleague but has forgotten that we actually need to be good and competitive as a team.

He wants to send us to play these top teams playing Allegriball ??

Fix the team and stadium then talk about SL. As of now we are barely Europa league level.

 

This is the general attorney opinion on the matter, and it makes sense. Did a court made a decision yet?

 

If the Courts follow the law this was always going to be the outcome. Much like Bosman was.

 

It may well not happen, but it is not a vanity project.

it was an attempt to lev el the playing field for all of the other big Euro clubs with the Prem ver League. if something doesn't change, soon, the Prem will be THE Super League and few outside of it will be able to compete unless you are owned by a sovereign wealth fun d or country.

Why people continue to act like there aren't any problems and that this is some sort of stunt, esp. when they support lesser clubs or strong clubs in smaller leagues, I don't get. UEFA takes a isht ton of money out of Euro football at the expense of the non-prom clubs. That is money that could help finance more clubs outside of the Prem because it is pretty clear that a true Euro Super League would bring in more revenue that the current UEFA setup and maybe even more than the Prem on a world wide basis.

But because our President was the face of the ESL, our club is going to be demolished by the forces of reaction within UEFA and the jealousies rampant in Italian football.

 

Going to be interesting to see what the fallout from this ruling will be:

🚨Promoters of the European Super League, have won their appeal in a Madrid court meaning Super League clubs can't be punished by UEFA or FIFA. #Juventus

[@JacobsBen] pic.twitter.com/ocGpiV4DVO

— Bianconeri Zone (@BianconeriZone) January 31, 2023

 

Now someone more eloquent than me may explain to me, how do other teams catch the premier league teams in terms of revenue, when premier league teams are also included in the super league? Maybe there is something than needs to be done, but the whole super league project is so bizarre to me, and its realisation and implementation was amateurish at best.

 

But that doesn't solve the problem. That would exacerbate it.

What the Super League would do is make Euro footie more like and American style league where TV partners would have a good sense of who would be in it year to year and since you would always have 10-12 of the biggest clubs in they can market that across the world.

It was not a closed shop. Yes there were a certain number of teams in every year, but there was still room for people to qualify to get in from smaller leagues. Plus there was going to be a second level for more teams which would be better than UEFA's Europa League. Plus, plus, the structure was up for negotiation as Agnelli made clear from the beginning.

Instead of taking him up on that and negotiating, UEFA moved to smother the ESL in its cradle.

As to Prem teams, one of the reasons they get so much money is because of their big clubs. if you pry 4 or 5 of them into the Super League, the overall value of the Super League is enhanced and it may put a bit of a damper on the Prem contracts going forward. Yes the ones in the Super League year over year will get more money than the rest, but right now, bottom feeder Prem teams are getting more $$$ than top teams in most leagues. That is not sustainable IF you want a top competition for Euro football as a whole.

The original proposal was not to abandon the domestic leagues, but that the ESL would replace the UEFA events at least for the top clubs that choose to participate. UEFA could still sponsor its own Euro competitions for club s that don't make one of the 3 levels of the ESL.

As a supporter of Ajax, you have already seen what the big TV deals have done to your club over the last 25 years. If things continue as they are, nearly every club in Europe that is not in the Prem will be in the same boat. It is a crime what UEFA has allowed to happen to a storied club like Ajax, but if we continue down the current path, that will be the reality for everyone other than clubs owned by mideastern oilmen and countries. Even a club like Bayern will not be able to keep up.

Cutting back auto qualifiers and adding more smaller clubs to the current UEFA comps only dilutes the product further from a worldwide fan perspective. the ESL had the right idea. Fans want to see more of the big teams playing each other, not against a bunch of small teams like you get in round 1 of the CL. That is the marketing analysis the ESL clubs bit on when they decided to set it up. Even the Prem teams saw this, before their reactionary fans misunderstood what was being proposed and UEFA went into full retaliatory mode.

Now that no sanctions can be made, I wonder what will happen next?

 

Jaunuary window makes clear why something like the RSL is needed to level the playing field with the Prem. otherwise every other league will be spent into Bolivian:

https://football-italia.net/allegri-mckennie-wanted-to-leave-juventus-leeds-a-good-option/

SNIP:

"...Premier League spent almost €830m in the January window, making some purchases in Serie A. Jakub Kiwior joined Arsenal from Spezia, Matias Vina left Roma for Bournemouth who also secured the services of Sassuolo‘s Hamed Traorè.

Serie A clubs, on the other hand, spend only €31.2 in the January transfer window.

“It’s useless to make comparisons,” noted Allegri.

“The ratio is clear and is one to four. Premier League generates €8 billion income, Serie A €2 billion....”

 

A purely continental competition might not be a bad idea, actually...

 

I'm for anything that gets us out of this horseshit domestic competition. Make top level club football like the NFL.