NSR: CHICAGO Political Thread ***HIGHLY TOXIC - ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK***

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  1. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I line up 85% with Kam Buckner, but only 34% with Mayor Lightfoot.
     
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  2. juicecrewallstar

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    Mar 1, 2019
    The state of CTA is really poor and definitely unreliable these days. Buses not showing up, huge headways between trains. They are severely understaffed and Lightfoot spent lots of money on completely ineffective security.

    It’s a huge problem.
     
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  3. Mac97

    Mac97 Member+

    Jul 15, 2014
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    The city has a population, operating budget and structural complexity of a small country. Anybody on the ballot with real, practical experience running such a complex organization I don't trust further than I could throw them off a roof. Anyone whose positions I largely agree with has painfully little experience overseeing so large and complex an entity (with all the skullduggery involved).
    Jez, this sucks.
     
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  4. juicecrewallstar

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    Mar 1, 2019
    it's a brutal job and I don't know why anyone would want it

    almost to the point where wanting the job is almost disqualification for the job itself!
     
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  5. harrylee773

    harrylee773 Member+

    Jul 28, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I line up 74% with Buckner, which I expected, but also 74% with Green, whom I know little about. Lightfoot and Vallas (lol) are around 35% each, as was Chuy, which surprised me because I had him up there with Buckner a few weeks ago. I’ve since seen some stuff that has had me cool to him, but I guess he doesn’t line up with my priorities as well as I’d suspected.
    I feel like the decline in the service of the CTA is intentional. Emanuel signed over Divvy operating rights to Lyft in 2019, which seemed odd at the time- Divvy was championed as a “last mile” connector to transit by some, and rideshare would seem to be in competition with that kind of service, at least for those that can take advantage of it. But it did give Lyft an “in” with the city, and two competing interests with the CTA, as Divvy can be a “last mile” connector and/or a replacement for transit for some. Obviously the pandemic didn’t help, but when I think of “who stands to benefit from public transit’s collapse?” I see a big bright pink sign in my head and start thinking about how General Motors et al where accused of conspiring to kill streetcars in major cities here.
    I’m guilty of it myself, too - it sucks. I went to see “Chicago” at the CIBC Theater on Saturday night. Rather than gamble with CTA reliability at 10:30p on a weekend, I took a Lyft home to Edison Park. Instead of a $5 fare for my date and I, the Lyft ran me $65 before tip. I shudder to think what Lyft would charge if public transit wasn’t an option, and have a feeling that they’ll do what they can to make it a reality.
     
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  6. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Kam Buckner: 83%
    Ja'Mal Green: 83%
    Brandon Johnson: 74%
    Roderick T. Sawyer: 52%
    Sophia King: 52%
    Paul Vallas: 43%
    Willie L. Wilson: 39%
    Jesús "Chuy" García: 35%
    Lori E. Lightfoot: 30%
     
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  7. juicecrewallstar

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    Mar 1, 2019
    anecdotal, but I ended my divvy membership after several years when it came time for renewal a few weeks ago —$150/year member is like three times what it used to be and now that I don’t use it for my commute it didn’t make sense

    re:CTA, I think the biggest issue they have is lack of staff; they are really struggling to hire operators and, as I understand it, senior staff get to choose their routes, leaving less desirable routes with awful frequency and trains with headways 2-3x longer than advertised

    CTA officials are gaslighting the public around the real challenges facing CTA and it’s spiraling: bad service results in lower ridership results in less revenue results in worse service and so on

    Kam is the darling of the transit-focused voting crowd, but that’s not a strong enough base
     
  8. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    I used Divvy for a long time but let my subscription lapse in the fall. It's just not worth it anymore, unfortunately.
     
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  9. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    That is almost exactly how they lined up for me.
     
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  10. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    You're in agreement with Lightfoot 34% of the time. I'm not sure I can trust you.
     
  11. Fuegofan

    Fuegofan Member+

    Feb 17, 2001
    Chicago
    While Buckner came out tops for me, too, he only came out at 57% for me. That said, I'm really intrigued by him and will continue to dig and learn.
     
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  12. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I'm not sure I can trust me! :eek:

    I really thought Lightfoot would make a good mayor. She has the education and the experience.
    I met her at a couple of events before the last election and thought she had what it takes to be an effective mayor.
    I was sorely mistaken.
    The fact that she has been less effective than the generally awful Rahm Emmanuel is terribly disappointing.


    I took the quiz again:

    Kam Buckner: 83%
    Ja'Mal Green: 74%
    Roderick T. Sawyer: 74%
    Brandon Johnson: 61%
    Paul Vallas: 61%
    Sophia King: 57%
    Willie L. Wilson: 48%
    Jesús "Chuy" García: 35%
    Lori E. Lightfoot: 30%- a more 'trustworthy' percentage, I suspect!
     
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  13. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Lori E(P)Lightfoot!
     
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  14. Mac97

    Mac97 Member+

    Jul 15, 2014
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Lightfoot is an example of my earlier point of someone whose positions may well be solid and maybe even honestly have the best of intentions, but she had never run a sizable, complex organization filled with people with their own agendas.
    It absolutely can be done well, be more often than not it doesn't end well.

    And yes, we do need people to give it a shot.
     
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  15. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It does not matter who the president is. State of the Union Address is always a misinformation-filled waste of time. Watch Road Runner cartoons instead.
     
  16. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    False equivalency.
     
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  17. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Please demonstrate what was "misinformation -filled" in the State of the Union.
     
  18. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Unbelievable! Outta Here!
     
  19. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Sorry. I would like to know what you mean.
     
  20. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
  21. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Both parties cater to their most extreme elements. As a result, the sane 80% of the population in the middle has nobody representing them. Unfortunately, the media supports them in this endeavor because it sells. Both sides choose beginning
    points and end dates for statistical comparisons which support their point of view. The actual truth is seldom shown.
    Major national problems such as crime, wasteful spending, immigration and government corruption are ignored indefinitely.
    Political “leaders” start re-election campaigns three days after election. No wonder they do not get anything done. Many government programs provide short-term help but encourage destructive long-term behavior. (This is my last post here.)
     
  22. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Libertarians are ********ing racist idiots.
     
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  23. I'll play. I don't live in the city anymore, but have interests and pay close attention.

    Kam Buckner: 78%
    Paul Vallas: 74%
    Sophia King: 65%
    Ja'Mal Green: 65%
    Roderick T. Sawyer: 61%
    Brandon Johnson: 57%
    Willie L. Wilson: 52%
    Jesús "Chuy" García: 39%
    Lori E. Lightfoot: 30%

    My bump for Vallas is due to his education positions. My nephew happens to be director of charter schools in a major city. I also raised two children who are quite outside the mainstream education track and CPS offered us no viable alternatives and almost no supports.

    It's sad that the incumbent mayor cannot be arsed to produce a position on half of these questions. I hope she gets her ass voted out of office, but fear she may be able to game the primary and general election enough to be re-elected.
     
  24. juicecrewallstar

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    Mar 1, 2019
    it's pretty wild how disparate the polls are from various outlets re: the mayor's race

    same five -- vallas, lightfoot, chuy, brandon, wilson -- all generally hit over 10% in each, but beyond that there is no discernable pattern

    hate that i feel the need to game theory my vote instead of voting for my top candidate -- bring on the rank-choice voting!
     
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  25. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mislabeling=Misinformation. Not Libertarian. Definitely not a racist. One definition of idiot is someone who is usually wrong and calls other people nasty names.
     

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