News: Dave Baldwin Career Deathwatch Thread

Discussion in 'Chicago Fire' started by xtomx, Dec 22, 2022.

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Brief Poll today: Will Dave Baldwin last longer in the job than Ishwara Glassman-Chrein?

  1. Yes

    13 vote(s)
    68.4%
  2. No

    5 vote(s)
    26.3%
  3. Yes, but ONLY if he brings better "snacks" than Ms. Glassman-Chrein offered

    3 vote(s)
    15.8%
  4. Regardless of who is President of Business Operations-Something Stupid Will Happen

    8 vote(s)
    42.1%
  5. Malört (Well, I had a shot of Malört last nice to 'celebrate' this announcement, in advance!)

    9 vote(s)
    47.4%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Jiggly_333

    Jiggly_333 Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I coulda sworn I saw something about breaking ground in the area for the housing project part of it.
     
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  3. Old Man!

    Old Man! BigSoccer Supporter

    RIP Chicago Fire
    Mar 11, 2000
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Baldwin had better be working on that shirt sponsor. The lack of a deal may have been the biggest failing of Glassman-Chrein. I don’t know how he’s supposed to pull that together with such little time.

    Im trying to recall how close to the season start the Fire have announced past new shirt sponsors and I’ve no recollection.
     
  4. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    People need to go back and read "the Beckham Experiment" for a reminder of how hilariously bare bones MLS was back in the day.

    And as I've said a lot, it's the time commitment more than the money commitment that's keeping people from Fire games. The games don't really cost much more than what you'd otherwise spend on Saturday night entertainment, but why spend either on a bad product?
     
  5. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    IIRC, the original Motorola deal in 2019 was pretty last minute too.
     
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  6. Mikebsiu

    Mikebsiu Member+

    Mar 15, 2008
    Club:
    RSC Anderlecht
    Ding, ding!! Nothing like sitting in the Waldron parking garage for one hr, and making your 5 year old exit the car to pee on a wall.
     
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  7. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Yeah, and she REALLY did not appreciate that!
     
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  8. There's an old joke about who can piss higher on the wall, but 5 year olds . . .
     
  9. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
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  10. Mac97

    Mac97 Member+

    Jul 15, 2014
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
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  11. juicecrewallstar

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    Mar 1, 2019
    last year of the navy jersey

    I don't think no sponsor on the kit reveal means no jersey sponsor at all

    as someone who came to soccer later in life after 30 years of american sports, jersey sponsorships are so tacky to me
     
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  12. Fuegofan

    Fuegofan Member+

    Feb 17, 2001
    Chicago
    I played soccer in the 70s and I still find them tacky. I still wear my 2000 Fire jersey because I don't want to wear an advertisement. And I didn't buy a Wolves jersey once because Doritos was the sponsor and I didn't feel like advertising a product I'm allergic to.
     
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  13. lurak

    lurak Member+

    Aug 24, 2007
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    So Morningstar, then as a last resort?

    That maybe an awkward conversation between Dave Baldwin and Joe Mansueto.
     
  14. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    The President responsible was fired a few months ago. Sayonara.
     
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  15. In the nearly 30 years I've used their services I've never had the impression that Morningstar spent a lot on advertising.
     
  16. GHjelm

    GHjelm Member+

    Apr 23, 2008
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I think their advertising is basically being the only company in their field that 95% of people have ever heard of.
     
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  17. Old Man!

    Old Man! BigSoccer Supporter

    RIP Chicago Fire
    Mar 11, 2000
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I mean it's not unheard of for us (although from a business perspective, it's a really bad look). Julian Posada did a bang up job not getting a sponsor in 2011.

    [​IMG]
     
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  18. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    My favorite Fire jersey!
     
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  19. Jiggly_333

    Jiggly_333 Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    It was visually wonderful. Absolutely a pain to wear.
     
  20. Mac97

    Mac97 Member+

    Jul 15, 2014
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    It didn't have a sponsor across the front....but it read "Fire".
    Hhmmmm.....





    I know, I know, but Jez, if it isn't an extension of crass commercialism, why the hell can't it say "Fire"?
     
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  21. Say whatever you want about billionaires in general, but Mansueto basically created an industry employing 10,000 people out of nothing.
     
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  22. GHjelm

    GHjelm Member+

    Apr 23, 2008
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I'm a limited capitalist. Some people work hard and have great ideas that make life better. They should be rewarded. That said, why does anyone need $1BB? Mansueto is probably one of the better billionaires, but that is an embarrassingly low bar. I can't imagine having billions and seeing people live off the scraps they find in the dump and being like, "this is okay."
     
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  23. Like many companies, the company I worked at as an hourly union employee for 4 decades had a mission/values statement. Paraphrasing the one most important to me was "All stakeholders (owners, employees, customers, suppliers, community) must profit". In a perfect world all stakeholders would profit fairly. Our world is far from perfect, but that shouldn't stop us from trying

    I'm not going to get into a value judgement of the class, but among billionaires I give Mansueto an A- grade within that class. Considering some of the other sports team owners in this city (Reinsdorf, Ricketts, Wirtz), Mansueto stands head and shoulders above them all.
     
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  24. Jiggly_333

    Jiggly_333 Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Waiting for a mid-season acquisition.
     
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  25. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Agreed

    Easy, they DON'T see "people live off the scraps." They just move past it.
    It's a different world, altogether.
     
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