News: Dave Baldwin Career Deathwatch Thread

Discussion in 'Chicago Fire' started by xtomx, Dec 22, 2022.

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Brief Poll today: Will Dave Baldwin last longer in the job than Ishwara Glassman-Chrein?

  1. Yes

    13 vote(s)
    68.4%
  2. No

    5 vote(s)
    26.3%
  3. Yes, but ONLY if he brings better "snacks" than Ms. Glassman-Chrein offered

    3 vote(s)
    15.8%
  4. Regardless of who is President of Business Operations-Something Stupid Will Happen

    8 vote(s)
    42.1%
  5. Malört (Well, I had a shot of Malört last nice to 'celebrate' this announcement, in advance!)

    9 vote(s)
    47.4%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    All hail our new President of something or other.
    No, wait, it is President of Business Operations.

    https://www.chicagofirefc.com/news/...dave-baldwin-president-of-business-operations

    I really hope he can something to raise the business operations of the team.
    He has quite a bit of sports experience, but zero experience with soccer, apparently.

    He has been in ticket sales for most of his career, unfortunately spending a bit of time with the Washington "Commanders" and, almost as bad, the Detroit Red Wings and Tigers.


    There is something very weird in the Fire's announcement:

    Most recently, Baldwin was the Chief Ticketing Officer for the Commanders, where he served as a key member of the senior leadership team and was responsible for overseeing the strategy and operations for the team’s ticketing efforts as well as securing major events, including world class concerts and the 125th anniversary of the Army vs. Navy football game (scheduled for 2024). Additionally, under Baldwin’s leadership, the Commanders ranked second in the NFL in new club seats sold and third in new annual suites sold this season.

    Prior to his time with the Commanders, Baldwin served as the Senior Vice President of Ticket Sales and Service for Ilitch Sports + Entertainment from 2019-2021. In this role, Baldwin oversaw a team of more than 90 people, including salespeople, sales leadership, and ticketing strategy and analytics for the Detroit Tigers and Detroit Red Wings.


    This seems to imply that he was only hired by the Washington football club in 2021 and was only with Illitch Sports (Tigers and Red Wings) for two years. That is quite a bit of job hopping for the young man.

    Here is the announcement of his hire by the Washington football club:
    https://www.si.com/nfl/commanders/news/washington-football-team-hires-new-exec
    March, 2021.
    Yep, he managed 19 months in that job. Good that he escaped from them.


    Here is his profile from that pointy ball team: https://www.commanders.com/team/front-office-roster/dave-baldwin

    His twitter proflie still lists the Washington football club
    https://twitter.com/dwb_34

    Dave Baldwin
    @DWB_34

    Mary’s husband, Hudson and Blake’s dad. Chief Ticketing Officer for The Washington Commanders. University of Miami MBA


    His comments from the announcement:
    “I am extremely grateful to Joe Mansueto for the opportunity to join the Chicago Fire,” said Baldwin. “It’s an honor to be joining the team during such a pivotal time in its history. Between the consistent growth that MLS has experienced over the last decade, the Fire’s recent move to Soldier Field, and the 2026 World Cup set to be held in North America, there’s never been a better time to join the sport and to help grow one of the League’s original clubs. I’ve spoken with Georg and I’m excited to support his efforts as we look to bring another championship to the great city of Chicago. I’m looking forward to joining the team and meeting our Fire supporters soon!”

    Umm, sorry, Dave, but the Fire are NOT one of the original clubs.

    Everybody knows (or should know) THAT. Hell, winning MLS Cup, and US Open Cup, completing the Double, in our first year as an expansion team is just about the only thing we have to be proud of as Fire fans.

    Not the way to make a positive first impression.
     
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  2. Old Man!

    Old Man! BigSoccer Supporter

    RIP Chicago Fire
    Mar 11, 2000
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah I noticed the same things. Commanders? Maybe leave that off the resume. Not an original club dude, but whatever. Nothing in his history suggests the type of corporate deal making required for this position. Ticket sales improvements? Why not hire internally then? Implementing digital ticketing systems? Give me a break, that’s just signing a contract with a third party vendor approved by your boss. Most of this stuff happens no matter who has his role.

    Glassman-Cherin’s resume was more impressive.

    Good luck Baldwin, hopefully you at least move to Chicago.
     
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  3. pena pirata

    pena pirata Member+

    Sep 28, 2013
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Too bad we couldn't get a guy who was very familiar with you know......soccer.
     
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  4. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Clearly ticket sales are Mansueto’s concern. Mike Ernst might be able to help with that.
     
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  5. goldclover

    goldclover Member+

    Mar 25, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Well they may need to sign another star player.
     
  6. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    I assume one is coming but the lack of anticipation is deflating me.
     
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  7. Old Man!

    Old Man! BigSoccer Supporter

    RIP Chicago Fire
    Mar 11, 2000
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He’d better get cracking on a new jersey sponsor. Maybe I’m wrong, but that’s not a quick come on in for a couple meetings and sign a 3-year multimillion dollar deal.
     
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  8. milicz

    milicz Member+

    Dec 2, 2001
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    In my book any team founded between 1996-1998 is an original founding member of MLS, so I'm with Dave on this one!
     
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  9. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Your book is wrong, as well as Dave.
     
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  10. Mikebsiu

    Mikebsiu Member+

    Mar 15, 2008
    Club:
    RSC Anderlecht
    Maybe lower ticket prices!! That could help us crack 10k…
     
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  11. Fuegofan

    Fuegofan Member+

    Feb 17, 2001
    Chicago
    $10 tickets to get into SF was what got me hooked on the Fir in the first place.
     
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  12. juicecrewallstar

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    Mar 1, 2019
    cheap -- even free -- tickets to fill a larger-than-average stadium feels like a no-brainer

    maybe the ticket + concessions does not net out higher than the staff required, I don't know
     
  13. milicz

    milicz Member+

    Dec 2, 2001
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    You spiral into tickets being worthless, taking value away from season ticket holders etc.
     
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  14. pena pirata

    pena pirata Member+

    Sep 28, 2013
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    True. If the Fire gave away tickets just to fill the stadium why wouldn't they just free season tickets away to fill the stadium?
     
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  15. Maybe make midweek games $10 tickets & $5 12 oz. domestic drafts.
     
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  16. juicecrewallstar

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    Mar 1, 2019
    yeah, i'm sure there are complex models that work through this, but season tickets should be cheaper too!

    but perhaps the thinking/reality is you squeeze what you can out of your diehards and that nets more than making tickets cheaper and increasing attendance by n%

    some quick back-of-the-napkin math: i pay about $35/ticket for a club-level seat as a STH -- if there were $10 non-club options in the corners/upper levels I'm still gonna pay for my better seats at $25/game -- so I guess the equation is around whether the $10 ticket is enticing enough to bring in one fan for every STH to offset the reduced ST price

    I have no idea what they do for youth soccer groups or whatever, but as a STH I'm not gonna be mad if they give away tons of free tickets to youth programs
     
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  17. pena pirata

    pena pirata Member+

    Sep 28, 2013
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    My season ticket plus parking in 2019 was only $306. Just sayin.
     
  18. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    The administration and technical budgets were also 25% of what they are now…
     
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  19. juicecrewallstar

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    Mar 1, 2019
    and you had to go to ********ing bridgeview no thank you
     
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  20. pena pirata

    pena pirata Member+

    Sep 28, 2013
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Rent was probably 25% of what it is now.
     
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  21. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Andrew screwed us so badly out of keeping Toyota Park a viable option. He had Julian Posada negotiate away our rights to manage the entire stadium and thus, control all revenue streams. He did this to both lower the guaranteed fee to the village to a pittance and reduce all overhead associated with running a stadium to zero. This meant a vulture investment capitalist could control all expenses at the lowest possible level while sitting on the asset.

    Everything was lost at that point in time. We could basically only rely on ticket revenue and that wasn’t enough to run a team. We continued to trim the fat and lower investment in the staff until he sold. I know I’ve mentioned all this before but we can’t forget it. It really torpedoed our ability to be there. It ruined us for our last decade there.

    Fast forward to now and we have essentially the same situation with Soldier Field. We pay a fixed rent and don’t run the stadium or control the revenue streams. The big difference though, is that the location means prices per ticket can justifiably go up AND the number of seats they can potentially sell has TRIPLED. This means The revenue cap has easily quadrupled what Toyota Park could ever do.

    If we still controlled all the revenue streams of Bridgeview Stadium we could have made a go of it but ultimately Andrew Hauptman made it a dead end.

    And here we are.
     
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  22. Old Man!

    Old Man! BigSoccer Supporter

    RIP Chicago Fire
    Mar 11, 2000
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There are models like this that accurately pinpoint the price that maximizes attendance. It’s not zero. I think the Fire utilize variable pricing too for non-STHs. Either way, I’m certain they know exactly the price point they need to hit.
     
  23. juicecrewallstar

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    Mar 1, 2019
    sure but when you have 45k empty seats you kinda want to see them try something to get more folks in the door
     
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  24. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    How about signing better players and hire a more capable coach?
    A winning team would bring more people out than merely cutting prices.

    Of course, our new President of Business something should come up some ideas to bring in the crowds.
     
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  25. Mac97

    Mac97 Member+

    Jul 15, 2014
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    What's the status on starting construction of the training facility?
     

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