PBP: United States vs Colombia; 1/28; 7:30pm ET

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  1. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    The way Hoppe chests that long pass down.........you wonder why he never puts it all together.
     
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  2. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    Half

    USA 0 Colombia 0
     
  3. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Two days ago I made the comment that Ferreira had average speed. I kept a close eye on him in this game and, yes, he is faster than my previous eye test.
     
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  4. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I would except I can't tolerate his stupid and excessive goal calls. When I am forced to watch a match with him I use the mute on ever goal no matter what. I swear his goal calls can go on for five or more minutes. And it contributes nothing.
     
  5. neems

    neems Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Apr 14, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Probably the best summary moment of Hoppe as a player: Brings down Tolkin’s long ball beautifully then chooses to try a hopeless flick over two players and appeals for a foul.

    Can’t think of a better situation that really defines him as a player.
     
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  6. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He was getting manhandled, but he is not afraid to mix it up. You have to give the kid props for that. I do think he is quicker than his brother.
     
  7. Papin

    Papin BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 19, 1998
    le côté obscur
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oof, that was ugly.
     
  8. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Maybe because he has the memory of a goldfish. :D
     
  9. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

    Nov 9, 2003
    Los Angeles
    Overall both team had chances but Colombia was more consistently dangerous. Aaronson was noticeably physically overmatched but on closer view I noticed that all the Colombians have a good sense of how to use their physicality. The U.S. players are not used to that.
     
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  10. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That was framed as a good thing during the GC because he was trying things. You don't need to be good at the things you try, just try them. The more you know.

    Unsurprisingly, the objective metrics weren't as friendly toward his performances. They actually punish you for failing. In that case, it's not like he didn't have an option. There was a runner streaking down the middle, but Hoppe called his own #. Earlier when he laid off to Aaronson, he should have shot instead. So there is some general bad decision making here.
     
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  11. Dervos

    Dervos Member+

    Mar 13, 2002
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Well, I'm repeating myself I guess, but he did? I mean the only consistent playing time he's had in his career was in the German top flight, and he looked good against some of the best in the world, and not just on the goals he scored. And yet, they didn't try hard to keep him, and he's been benched, disappeared, sent to the reserves, sent to the bench of the reserves, at every team since then. Pretty clear to me it's not his ability to play soccer that's scuttling his career.
     
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  12. usfootball20

    usfootball20 Member+

    May 15, 2012
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jesus has looked decent enough. Would like to see him go to Europe.
     
  13. neems

    neems Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Apr 14, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Colombia also has more variety in attack. Willing to play on the counter, willing to play direct, and can do a little build up. They aren’t super cleaned or refined though so the direct or counter seems most dangerous to me.
     
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  14. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Aaronson: lacks the physicality needed to play central midfield.
    Acosta: does not need to be on all the dead balls.
    Ferreira: it's time to play him in a different position.
    Hoppe: had some nice touches. Too bad he blew the 1v1.

    This group wasn't as dynamic as the starters against Serbia. But the score could've been 3-0
    1. the very clear hand ball that wasn't called
    2. Aaronson backpass to the Colombia keeper
    3. The Hoppe 1v1

    Credit to Hudson. This team has been generating legit chances. Big improvement over last cycle.
     
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  15. neems

    neems Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Apr 14, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #165 neems, Jan 28, 2023
    Last edited: Jan 28, 2023
    Tough to know is this because he’s not playing regularly or whether it’s him as a player. Might be him as a player since his club situation has not been great.
     
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  16. TarHeels17

    TarHeels17 Member+

    Jan 10, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Paxten sorta seems like what Carleton could have been if he was a complete professional. I still worry about the physicality, and this isn't against that high of a level. I think he's slightly more technical than his brother, but his brother is more physically capable, and an outlier in terms of how effective his pressing is. Paxten isn't.

    And I apologize to Hoppe, he's better than I remembered. He seems to lack confidence at the moment, but he's still making good runs and occasionally does something nice.
     
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  17. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Colombia significantly but not dramatically out-played the US. They certainly had more fluidity in their moves.

    Our fb's could probably add to the attack, but we can't string together more than a few passes before losing it, so they're not getting up the field. We're mostly a counter team today, because of CB's that can't play out of the back, and a CM that isn't much more functional offensively & less on d.

    I think the halftime solutions should be to bring on Vazquez immediately. He made Cincy function instantly when they were losing midfields and had cb's who weren't good playing out of the back either. Then put Ferreira underneath. Ferreira's showing good facilitation. But he often doesn't have much to pass to & he's not a target.

    I'd bring on Morris and/or Pomykal in midfield. We'd probably win the ball more to counter up higher. I don't know if it helps our build-up. But it couldn't be much worse. And we need the experiment.

    At the back we simply need to try a different partner for Zimmerman to be able to play out. Rogers hasn't had his shot yet, so why not him. But the roster may just be structured poorly in this regard. Poor domestic options, but at least the cb's could complement.

    In goal I'd bring in Celentano. Not that Johnson has done anything wrong, but Roman hasn't had his shot yet, and he's the best near-term prospect on the roster.
     
  18. AutoPenalti

    AutoPenalti Am I famous yet?

    Sep 26, 2011
    Coconut Creek
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Preplanned changes hooray…
     
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  19. Three and Three

    Three and Three Member+

    Sep 13, 2015
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Perhaps. And I agree on the announcers. But viewers don't want to have to hit the mute button; they don't want to find their fans embarrassing. Can other fans in the stadium hit the mute button? Or should they put on headphones and zone out?

    Dude, we're carrying ourselves in an amateurish fashion. People will point that out.

    Buddy Holly and The Beach Boys? With you all day long on that. All day long.

    Anyway, the Roy Orbison special had too many interruptions, and I found Sandra's chops compromised by the formulaic romantic-comedy dialogue. So back to the footy I went.
     
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  20. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    I'm liking Hoppe much, much more as a wide player than a CF. He might not be in the top 3 choices on my depth chart, but you can't completely sleep on a guy with such instincts, first touch, ability to win 1v1s. Even if he's not a particuarly heady player, frustratingly.

    Paxton's having himself an active match, but he's losing more of his battles than he's winning. I'd like to get Morris on there in his stead to try to cut down on all the Colombian counterattacks coming at us at 100mph. Cade for Hoppe around the 60th or 70th. Ditto Vazquez for Ferreira (who has been good). Our fullbacks are ok, but haven't been able to really assert themselves. Jones has been a bit better on the right than Tolkin on the left, despite the fact that I would really like to back Tolkin. He's holding his own but he hasn't been a "plus," and I was hoping he would be. And I'd leave Arriola out there for all 90 minutes if he can hack it, which I think he can. I want to see Soñora but I just don't think this is a game for him. Williamson has his hands full, and if the other day is any indication, I fear Soñora might be overrun. Then again... maybe the trial by fire would be a good thing. I doubt it, though.

    Oddly enough I feel like we are more skilled and composed around the box than the Colombians, hence the better quality chances we've had, but they're making more clever decisions around the box almost to a man, but are scuffing their chances and final balls badly.
     
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  21. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    I actually really like Martino as an analyst. He's more observant than either Twellman or Holden.
     
  22. usethespace

    usethespace Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    United States
    Dec 3, 2022
    good intensity for a friendly.

    Aaronson is frail.
    Hoppe with his typical moments of really good followed by moments of 'what's he thinking'
    Tolkin looks solid
    Long is still bad
    Not a fan of Acosta
    Jones seems like he's got some potential
    Williamson probably not gonna get a lot of looks

    a lot of slow feet through the middle of the field before you get to Jesus.

    The entire team keeps thinking they're gonna get possession and Colombia beats them to the ball.
     
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  23. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    Soñora for Williamson
     
  24. neems

    neems Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Apr 14, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I like Williamson as a player since he has some tools but he was flat footed an awful lot and that’s a big no no at this level.
     
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  25. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's a weird change. We just got even softer and less mobile in midfield. Paxten-Sonora combo. Dysfunctional on paper. Let's see how it plays out.
     

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