The Official Florian Jungwirth thread

Discussion in 'San Jose Earthquakes' started by Goodsport, Feb 2, 2017.

  1. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wait a minute, isn’t that the same period where he said that Stahre and company were youth soccer coaches??
     
  2. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    #277 JazzyJ, Jan 27, 2023
    Last edited: Jan 27, 2023
    He said that the team was playing like "youth soccer", not that the coaches were coaching like youth soccer coaches. The way he frames it is that the coaches are doing their best but ultimately, it's no use, they just don't have the players to compete. So again, I ask, how did we make the playoffs in 2017 but in 2018, getting a full year of Vako and Erisksson coming in, we suddenly don't have the players to compete? There wasn't much turnover I don't think - 2017 to 2018.

    https://quakesepicenter.com/2018/07/12/florian-jungwirth-we-dont-have-the-quality-to-compete/
     
  3. Kaitlyn

    Kaitlyn Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 25, 2014
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States
    Id answer this, but rather then waste my time with logic and the actual reasons... Id rather waste my time derailing threads and stalking your posts.
     
  4. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    I appreciated Flo's candor -- he didn't try to hide his emotions off or on the field. He was a fan favorite when he was here and I know a lot of us were sad when he left, but such is the way of Quakes fandom.
     
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  5. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    I liked everything about Flo, but I think saying that your teammates are just not good enough to compete is very much the wrong thing to do IMO. But it was just one comment or handful of sentences one time, and doesn't affect my overal opinion of him.
     
  6. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    Italy
    #282 falvo, Jan 28, 2023
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    He's only 34 which isn’t young but he is only a defender who doesn’t have to run too much.

    Looking at his stats, he only played in 13 games last year.

    He must be injured so he probably decided to retire and start coaching.
     
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  7. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    Wish Flo nothing but success, one of my favorite Quakes players.
     
  8. hc897

    hc897 Member+

    May 3, 2009
    San Jose, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Jungwirth's value as a player plummeted pretty fast after the first couple years in San Jose. He just couldn't move fast enough to keep up with the pace of the game. He was constantly out of position, made poor late challenges, and was generally ineffective.

    I thought he was older than he is, so it's a shame his playing career couldn't have gone longer, but I hope he finds success as a coach. He definitely seemed to enjoy the leadership role.
     
  9. Kaitlyn

    Kaitlyn Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 25, 2014
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He was healthy all year for the most part, he was just out of favor with the coach. He couldn't beat out the guys in front of him.
     
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  10. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #286 falvo, Jan 29, 2023
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    The Quakes last season anyway, could definitely have used Flo either on defense or midfield.

    I’ll never understand why Almeyda got rid of him because I think he could have helped out.

    He certainly wouldn’t have been worse than anyone else on the roster.
     
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  11. jeff_adams

    jeff_adams Member+

    Dec 16, 1999
    Monterey, Ca
    They didn’t “get rid of him”. They made the trade for Jebo because they needed a striker. That put them over the salary cap and they had to trade a high salary player to be in compliance and Flo was the guy. Basically they traded Ebobisse for Jungwirth and that was a great deal.
     
  12. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
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    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Though it also likely turned Jungwirth into an EoM. :eek:

    GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! :(


    -G
     
  13. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Considering he hardly ever played in 2022, they should have tried to get him back.

    Whether he dropped in quality or form is another story.

    If he was still the player he was when he left, Flo wouldn’t have been worse than any other defender or midfielder on the roster in 2022 anyway.

    I haven’t seen many better players to replace him.
     
  14. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Players who are already on the slow side are not going to be able to extend their careers much into their 30's. They can't afford to lose another step. I'm surprised Flo made it to 34, but then again, he started only about 30% of the games since we traded him to VC, so his career was already winding down.
     
  15. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    Heart of a lion, that guy. Always battling, never phoned it in.
     
  16. vamanoshasta

    vamanoshasta Member

    Aug 12, 2006
    Yep!!
     

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