BSMX's Official Mexican National Team Random Thoughts Thread vol. II

Discussion in 'Mexico National Team' started by DGreat, Feb 17, 2014.

  1. Philip J. Fry

    Philip J. Fry Member+

    Mexico
    Jun 12, 2013
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Yeah, and if we really, really want a veteran type to have alongside the young guns, I'd rather have Nico Ibáñez, who will be eligible and willing to play for the NT this January (and who will be only 31 in the summer of 2026) or Rulas if he returns (and maintains) his pre-injury level. Preferably to a Cheech who's already 34.
     
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  2. reznoverba

    reznoverba Member

    Chivas
    Mexico
    Aug 7, 2022
    Personally I prefer:

    Rafa Márquez or Jimmy Lozano

    Idgaf about "experience". Scaloni just won with less than 5yrs of experience. I know, it's Argentina, and we could all "coach" and win with that team, but seriously I think we need to give them a chance. Anything outside of those two, I'll be disappointed and hope for the best. That's just my personal preference.
     
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  3. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    Honest question, who is considered the best tactical coach or assistant coach in Mexico or just Spanish speaking. I love the idea of Rafa but you need an Xs and Os go alongside him who is comfy being number 2.
     
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  4. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    I dusted off my Google-fu and found the guy I was looking for. Mario Alberto Garcia Covalles, should be the assistant coach and Rafa Marquez the head coach. Two Mexicans won the form a long time captain and another a person is a coach in the league and has coached all over the country. Was the assistant to Maradona and so he understands what it's like to work with a guy who's a player with a vision but not the best at X's and O's but great at talking to players. Rafa can be the guy who talks and motivates the players. No outsiders, no Argentines.
     
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  5. Mr Pancho

    Mr Pancho El Mero Mero

    Chivas de Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Apr 24, 2011
    Seattle, WA
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Lmao...Scaloni is one in a million. The vast majority of legendary players turned coaches fail. I also don't know why everyone has a hard on for Lozano. The guy hasn't done anything with the youth teams. Let him win something first before you give him a National team job.
     
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  6. Philip J. Fry

    Philip J. Fry Member+

    Mexico
    Jun 12, 2013
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Yeah, truth is, some people seem to enamored with the idea of a Mexican coach when, newflash, we're not a nation that produces quality coaches. And for each inexperienced coach that succeeds, there are 10 that bust. And with a team with so many problems as the Mexican, a poor structure in the federation and a toxic press, you're asking for disaster.
     
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  7. LAFEFUT

    LAFEFUT Member+

    Mexico
    Mar 13, 2018
    Nothing surprises me with the FMF. As someone on here stated, I would not be surprised if we see el Chicharo in 2026.
     
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  8. chiva_guero

    chiva_guero BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 4, 2007
    Mexico NSR
    The federation and press is usually a reason for a Mexican coach

    they know what to expect
     
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  9. Athazagoraphobia

    Jul 28, 2012
    Vancouver
    Club:
    CF Atlas Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Lol this guy fell off pretty quickly.

     
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  10. Athazagoraphobia

    Jul 28, 2012
    Vancouver
    Club:
    CF Atlas Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Nothing against the experience argument but Jimmy Lozano ain’t it.
     
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  11. Philip J. Fry

    Philip J. Fry Member+

    Mexico
    Jun 12, 2013
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
     
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  12. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    Considering his work with Peru and they are no way as talented, he is not a bad option.
     
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  13. Mr Pancho

    Mr Pancho El Mero Mero

    Chivas de Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Apr 24, 2011
    Seattle, WA
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Hard Pass. No club success, minimal success with Peru. I'd be ok with giving a guy with little Head Coaching experience the job, but not some retread who's almost 70 and plays the same old tactics.
     
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  14. la fresa

    la fresa Member+

    Oct 31, 2005
    texas
    Club:
    Serbian White Eagles
    Hard pass as well. Difficult to imagine what the federation is thinking sometimes
     
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  15. CyberAce100

    CyberAce100 Member+

    Jul 4, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Chelís
     
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  16. CyberAce100

    CyberAce100 Member+

    Jul 4, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Sad

    I remember he went to MLS mostly to make the jump to Europe.
     
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  17. El Pipiripau

    El Pipiripau Member+

    Jul 10, 2006
    Escondido!!!
    Club:
    Club Santos Laguna
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Managing expectations
     
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  18. Saldgotti1991

    Saldgotti1991 Member+

    Jun 7, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    You mean to collect checks and sit at the beach.
     
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  19. Mr Pancho

    Mr Pancho El Mero Mero

    Chivas de Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Apr 24, 2011
    Seattle, WA
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    You ever notice the players that always change teams (they can't hack it, no playing time, bad system etc) almost never pan out? It happens a lot in Futbol, American football and Basketball. The ones that make it are usually the ones who stick it out, adapt and force their way onto the first team. Lozano in Italy easily could have quit when the new Manager came in. Instead he adapted and learned how to play. For every Vela and Tecatito who switches teams for playing time, there's many more Pizzaros, and Gio's.
     
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  20. Philip J. Fry

    Philip J. Fry Member+

    Mexico
    Jun 12, 2013
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
     
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  21. Mr Pancho

    Mr Pancho El Mero Mero

    Chivas de Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Apr 24, 2011
    Seattle, WA
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    lol he needs to stay with the US. Mexico just cap ties them to stick it to the US and never use the players. It's kind of sad actually.

    Edit: I'm sorry I'm all debie downer but I'm just tired of the same old federation tricks. Nothing ever changes.
     
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  22. reznoverba

    reznoverba Member

    Chivas
    Mexico
    Aug 7, 2022
    There should be a rookie of the tournament award for LigaMX. At least the youngsters can start getting some formal recognition. Maybe it'll put some informal pressure on the teams/coaches to debut some of the young guys. I know that's an American thing for things like basketball and baseball, but I'm desperate to find solutions to the clusterfck that is Mexican soccer.

    Also if the whole Cartel del Gol report just comes and goes and nothing changes, it'll be a real damn shame. We can't allow people to forget about the failure this last WC cycle was and use the momentum to actually effect change. It seems already though, people are moving on with their lives and it'll be the same old story for Mexican soccer.
     
  23. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    He needs to focus on getting consisten playing time first.
     
  24. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    Even England has a Professional Footballers' Association Young Player of the Year for the best player under 21.
     
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  25. rich loc

    rich loc Member+

    Jun 17, 2007
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Crazy how long it took Tata to stop calling him up. He was getting more mins than Lainez.
     
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